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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    I never did like drag racing...all of this internet stuff and lying and bashing...I'll just stick to road racing..
    The strip doesn't lie, it's the owners that do.

    Rather have a timeslip than a dyno but in this case the dyno numbers and the trap speeds are correlating pretty well.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    No launch control?
    It's just a clutch dump at low RPM, European got real launch control.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    I never did like drag racing...all of this internet stuff and lying and bashing...I'll just stick to road racing..
    yeah ,never experienced a serious drag race. but going for road course in Fridays is a must for me.

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    i had fun drag racing this thing. here is the glory 11 sec slip. 1.8x are def doable and so are 11.6-11.7 ETs. we'll sort things out and go back out there.

    For now First 6spd E92 M3 in 11s hehe

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    well, ill have to look at their claims again.
    ESS claims ~45% gain over stock with the VT2 600.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
    ESS claims ~45% gain over stock with the VT2 600.
    and 560 whp on pump through the stock exhaust at 6 psi....

    What fuel was run with this car? I'm guessing race.

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    I dont trust any of those dyno's shown, whats that 390 dyno run with 365 tq on top of IMG's dyno run? is that fully bolted pre s/c? if so, that explains EVERYTHING.

    So hard to tell anything with m3 fags.. Soooooooooo much Ego on the line already...

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
    ESS claims ~45% gain over stock with the VT2 600.
    well, my math is fuzzy, but 170 HP from a 400hp car seems pretty darn close to 45% no?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    well, my math is fuzzy, but 170 HP from a 400hp car seems pretty darn close to 45% no?
    Don't know much about this dyno, but the one that says it's stock is 329whp, and the one with the 600 kit says 467whp.
    45% gain from 329 should be 478whp, so your right it's not far away from claimed, but ~10whp short..
    Last edited by Setra; 03-22-2011 at 04:11 PM. Reason: Crap english

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    right, but i think everyone can live with a 10hp difference from claimed numbers, octane, wheels, and conditions could throw that # within 10hp eitherway..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    right, but i think everyone can live with a 10hp difference from claimed numbers, octane, wheels, and conditions could throw that # within 10hp eitherway..
    Yes, i agreeClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    right, but i think everyone can live with a 10hp difference from claimed numbers, octane, wheels, and conditions could throw that # within 10hp eitherway..
    We discussed this car months ago and for whatever reason it has been down on power from the beginning: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...laimed-Numbers

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    i remember, oh trust me, i follow this car Click here to enlarge

    im just saying. what is real. Real customers here, are they getting exactly what the kit can do and about to go on an unneeded witch hunt? or is there a problem here.. thats the real question

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    When we ordered the kit we were promised 500-510whp on 93 with exhaust. So we are 10-15 short. We were never promised 560-600 wheel or anything wild like that. I do see some people get more then what we got and I wonder how.

    The DynoJet I have been using for over 6 years now is fairly accurate and consistent. All 3 dynos were done on same dyno...

    Stock HP = 414. This car made 329whp which is 20% loss. seems reasonable to me.
    ESS HP = 600. Using same drivetrain loss of easy 20% ~500whp. This car on a unsmoothed chart made 499 and 493 with graph smoothing on.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    im just saying. what is real. Real customers here, are they getting exactly what the kit can do and about to go on an unneeded witch hunt? or is there a problem here.. thats the real question
    I'm sure you can figure out what is real. The strip isn't the one lying....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by prodigymb Click here to enlarge
    When we ordered the kit we were promised 500-510whp on 93 with exhaust. So we are 10-15 short. We were never promised 560-600 wheel or anything wild like that. I do see some people get more then what we got and I wonder how.

    The DynoJet I have been using for over 6 years now is fairly accurate and consistent. All 3 dynos were done on same dyno...

    Stock HP = 414. This car made 329whp which is 20% loss. seems reasonable to me.
    ESS HP = 600. Using same drivetrain loss of easy 20% ~500whp. This car on a unsmoothed chart made 499 and 493 with graph smoothing on.
    plus the Fabspeed dyno is AWD if i remember correctly yes?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by prodigymb Click here to enlarge
    When we ordered the kit we were promised 500-510whp on 93 with exhaust. So we are 10-15 short. We were never promised 560-600 wheel or anything wild like that
    Yep, the 560-600 claims were way earlier. 500-510 is realistic but you didn't hit that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    plus the Fabspeed dyno is AWD if i remember correctly yes?
    If so that would explain the lower baseline.

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    Did I misunderstand or did i read a few people complaining about not having nice track in their area and they have ATCO MIR nearby??

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Did I misunderstand or did i read a few people complaining about not having nice track in their area and they have ATCO MIR nearby??
    we all go to Atco, thats where this and my runs are, MIR is not close though, not impossible, but not close..

    what we are saying is, we KNOW we have GREAT TRACKS here, and go to them, but yet with the more powerful platforms, we are getting beat-up by less powerful cars (on track slips) and underperforming on Dyno's with same setups in other area's.. something gives..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    we all go to Atco, thats where this and my runs are, MIR is not close though, not impossible, but not close..

    what we are saying is, we KNOW we have GREAT TRACKS here, and go to them, but yet with the more powerful platforms, we are getting beat-up by less powerful cars (on track slips) and underperforming on Dyno's with same setups in other area's.. something gives..
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324
    Yeah, I know our area is known to produce some of the slowest times around lol,
    Well ATCO is one of the best tracks in the USA, some of the quickest and fastest times have been recorded there, same with MIR. You should try something like LACR (now gone) over here, would pretty much make you not want to drag race ever again.The other closest track in the desert is also poo most of the time...
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    How does Raceway Park compare to Atco, and MIR?
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    Ive always been slower at E-town, but also had major issues everytime as well Click here to enlarge

    @taza, thats my point, we KNOW Atco is good, so what is going on everywhere else..?

    For the record, i DO think this M3, can run faster, probably in the 11.6-11.7 range @ 121-123mph..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    we all go to Atco, thats where this and my runs are, MIR is not close though, not impossible, but not close..

    what we are saying is, we KNOW we have GREAT TRACKS here, and go to them, but yet with the more powerful platforms, we are getting beat-up by less powerful cars (on track slips) and underperforming on Dyno's with same setups in other area's.. something gives..
    You have to play the game right. You know what tracks are fast around you and when they are fast. Just do what the others are doing to get their fast times, strip the car out, run race gas, sticky rubber, and run in negative DA at a notoriously fast track. You have to level the playing field.

    What, you think I enjoy renting a trailer and making the 8 hour trip to Sacramento?

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