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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    I can't understand how that would take any longer than 30 minutes to install... much less 2 hours lol.
    Nobody said it was a 2 hour job.
    The remarks were made by a mechanic who needed to replace the HPFP, saying it was going to affect his work. Someone else then replaced the HPFP in 2 hours.
    Installing this looks like a 15 minute job, but then I am allways optimistic when guestimating installation times Click here to enlarge
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    Let us know if anyone gets a dyno of the intake.

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    I wonder how this compares to the Stett CAI?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Square&Level Click here to enlarge
    I wonder how this compares to the Stett CAI?
    Well how does the Stett compare to a DCI?

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    Nice work Matt....with a heat shield this intake should work better than the DCI's....

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    Sucking in cold air vs hot air will make a difference, but that placement is fine and will be more than efficient for amiable intake temps.

    Man, I didn't know that the n54 sounded so good with an intake, I may look for one for my 335. ID love to hear some turbo spool.
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    I can get you one if you decide you want it..

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    Alright, this intake has me thinking about my next little project....
    Scroll pretty much to the bottom of this thread and take a look at the intake this guy made.
    http://www.redpepperracing.com/forum...0659-1551.html
    It makes me want to try something like this with a little carbon fiber cloth and see what I can come up with. (for a 335, of course.)

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    Matt. Are you good with a welder and cutter? I may have a tasking for you Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Matt. Are you good with a welder and cutter? I may have a tasking for you Click here to enlarge
    I can do mig welding but for nicer projects i bring a guy into Tig..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ryan Mills Click here to enlarge
    Alright, this intake has me thinking about my next little project....
    Scroll pretty much to the bottom of this thread and take a look at the intake this guy made.
    http://www.redpepperracing.com/forum...0659-1551.html
    It makes me want to try something like this with a little carbon fiber cloth and see what I can come up with. (for a 335, of course.)
    That looks Pretty damn good! I would like to see what you got up your sleeve.
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    sounds good

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    any development of this? I would love to see a carbon fiber one (full carbon fiber) for heat suppression and I've heard carbon fiber intakes amplifies noise.
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    666 Fabrication closed its doors earlier this year...someone sent his manifolds to Taiwan and made $300 replicas, not to mention custom fab work was going really slow with the economy...so he packed it up.

    His partner found work at another fab shop in CT, still doing the same great welding.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
    666 Fabrication closed its doors earlier this year...someone sent his manifolds to Taiwan and made $300 replicas
    Sucks that this is how it is in the auto industry.

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    This instake makes no sense anyway. No cold air plus extra piping.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If it doesn't matter then why do lower intake temps (cold weather) have such a large effect on power?
    i know this is really old but i feel like replying

    it would also have to do with cooler air over the intercooler, as much as, if not more, than the cold air being sucked in, no?.. as the cold side of the intercooler is closer to ambient, so THAT would be where it's more like N/A in terms of benefit, not so much in where it's sucking, more in where it's cooling?

    i know on every NA car i've driven, an 8 degre night with a little dew is SO MUCH BETTER than a 30+ degree day

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    How much difference in compressed air temps over intake temps is there? mathematically..

    Say you're sucking in 30 degree celcius air, at 20psi, .... it would have a lot to do with the turbo itself i guess... lets go with whatever anyone else can tell me lol.... so it goes from 30 deg to ??? deg... then same question but 29 degrees, or 31 degrees.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    i know on every NA car i've driven, an 8 degre night with a little dew is SO MUCH BETTER than a 30+ degree day
    Same.

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    Inlet temperature of a compressor directly effects it's outlet temperature. True the bends add some pressure losses, but this intake is an example of a good design MINIMIZING those pressure losses (due to the generous radius bends) while picking up gains due to better IATs. So whoever said the inlet temperature "dont matter because it gunna heat up anywayz" doesnt know how a compressor works. Then why have I spent over a year researching pre-turbo methanol injection?

    The only problem I see with this intake is that it is metal and that will conduct a lot of heat which will hurt any gains from the placement of the filter away from heat. I would coat this intake and then it would be a fine product.
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    I disagree. I don't see how this benefits over a DCI. There is the added restriction of more plumbing and it is still taking air from the same hot location. You get neither the benefits of DCI having less plumbing nor CAI being cold air. Further more while inlet temperature does obvious effect outlet temperature, it has more less effect on performance than on an NA engine. Obviously a large change in temperature is going to result in meaningful gains, but the difference between CAI (which this is not) and DCI in temperature is not what I would consider a "large change in temperature". On the other hand meth, which you have been studying, is a large change.

    Thats my 2 cents.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    Inlet temperature of a compressor directly effects it's outlet temperature. True the bends add some pressure losses, but this intake is an example of a good design MINIMIZING those pressure losses (due to the generous radius bends) while picking up gains due to better IATs. So whoever said the inlet temperature "dont matter because it gunna heat up anywayz" doesnt know how a compressor works. Then why have I spent over a year researching pre-turbo methanol injection?

    The only problem I see with this intake is that it is metal and that will conduct a lot of heat which will hurt any gains from the placement of the filter away from heat. I would coat this intake and then it would be a fine product.
    So the turbo's don't heat up to meth's flash point i take it?

    how much temperature does the compression add? is it a ratio in a way?

    say 1 degre inlet temp increase = ?? temp output?

    i'm guessing its not even close to 1:1 going by your reply?


    my thoughts on how it works with an intercooler is that the intercooler tries to get the air to close to ambient by taking out the heat energy (i'm sure i could work this out from my highchool physics lol), so if you only had one place to put the meth, pre or post intercooler (pre if your IC sucks, post if not?) would be more logical, as the volume of air flowing through at speed is more effective than methanols heat capacity anyway?.. so the less energy the methanol has to remove, the more effective it would be?

    is your pre-turbo injection going to be the only source of injection?

    would be interested in your findings if you've posted anything anywhere

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    Funny, 666 built me a IC but I'm still not happy with my IAT's I think this is mostly a 535 problem. I've been reading up on pre turbo WI.

    http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html

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