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    Stock E92 M3 vs. E90 M3 with full Active Autowerke exhaust race video

    This video shows the difference between a bone stock E92 DCT M3 and an E90 M3 with the full Active Autowerke exhaust including sport cats. So, the E90 is not catless, and the exhaust is stated as its only mod, yet it puts buslengths on the E92. Color us skeptical as the difference is so large. It could be the exhaust is the only difference but the E90 pulls like a car with an exhaust and tune would, likely running higher octane fuel. The video description states speeds above the limiter were hit leading us to believe a tune is on the car and this was left out to exaggerate the difference. Either way, enjoy the video.

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    I think the guy in the description of the video gave it away:

    reached speeds passing160mph..
    (168mph being the highest speed obtained before we ran out of safe road)
    How are they reaching 168 mph with the speed limiter in place? No speed limiter means they have a tune.

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    yea, way too much to be just an exhaust

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    yea, way too much to be just an exhaust
    Feels like a promotional vid.

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    Reminds me of when I raced drew when we were both NA....he had full bolt ons and tune, I had air filter and muffler....rolling from 2nd gear till around 130 it looked like he vid above
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Reminds me of when I raced drew when we were both NA....he had full bolt ons and tune, I had air filter and muffler....rolling from 2nd gear till around 130 it looked like he vid above
    Yep, the vid above is what it looked like when I had bolt on's and a tune and I ran a stock 6 speed M3.

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    WOW! I never thought an exhaust upgrade made that much difference on the e9x m3's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    WOW! I never thought an exhaust upgrade made that much difference on the e9x m3's.
    That is because it doesn't.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I think the guy in the description of the video gave it away:



    How are they reaching 168 mph with the speed limiter in place? No speed limiter means they have a tune.
    bingo! I was thinking the same thing.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That is because it doesn't.
    Yeah I read the other post too late. Makes more sense now.

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    I'm 99% sure even though the video says that - that it was disclosed the car is full bolt ons tune/filter/pulley/exhaust from AA vs. stock. If you search youll find it. I think Ryan@aa posted it.

    The details were posted on on bimmerpost. AA wasn't being honest or plain dumb to the mods on the car.

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    I have to say exhaust makes a pretty big difference. When I ran drew he was fully modded NA and I had just a muffler/filter, he beat my by around 6 car lengths probably, was a huge gap. Then I raced him again, his car was still the same and I had the full Akrapovic exhaust w/ 100 cell cats and filter, but w/ no tune and no other mods and I would have to say the gap closed by half at least...he was probably 3 car lengths, the difference the exhaust made was pretty big.
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    im actually surprised ad the distance between a FBO and stock. i would have thought it to be closer. im gonna search for FBO vs S/c vids now. im impressed with the performance of the platform itself

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    Naturally aspirated with FBO and DCT the S65 is very fast - I've seen them pull on M5/M6's and run even with OETuned C63's.....much quicker than I had originally thought

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    FBO is such a lame term LOL Just like BPU++++++

    I have mostly all the bolt ons (filter/pulley/exhaust/stock x pipe with 1 kat delete), custom tune for 93 octane. And make about 25 more whp then drew's did on a similar dyno. Car went 118 a bunch of times on heavy wheels full weight with the t/c on. I am going to get a real X pipe installed, we will retune for it and take a little weight out and go for 120.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
    I'm 99% sure even though the video says that - that it was disclosed the car is full bolt ons tune/filter/pulley/exhaust from AA vs. stock. If you search youll find it. I think Ryan@aa posted it.

    The details were posted on on bimmerpost. AA wasn't being honest or plain dumb to the mods on the car.
    Well, glad I questioned it then.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I have to say exhaust makes a pretty big difference. When I ran drew he was fully modded NA and I had just a muffler/filter, he beat my by around 6 car lengths probably, was a huge gap. Then I raced him again, his car was still the same and I had the full Akrapovic exhaust w/ 100 cell cats and filter, but w/ no tune and no other mods and I would have to say the gap closed by half at least...he was probably 3 car lengths, the difference the exhaust made was pretty big.
    The exhaust does make a pretty big difference. Just not that big, but add a tune and it is impressive.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    im actually surprised ad the distance between a FBO and stock. i would have thought it to be closer. im gonna search for FBO vs S/c vids now. im impressed with the performance of the platform itself
    Yep, and I remember when that 335 owner with the RDsport tune learned this from me first hand. That was a glorious day, people underestimate this car still.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    Naturally aspirated with FBO and DCT the S65 is very fast - I've seen them pull on M5/M6's and run even with OETuned C63's.....much quicker than I had originally thought
    Yes, exactly. In th early days when I said I beat M5's people on M5board said I was making it up... I mean, wtf.

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    what is FBO?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    what is FBO?
    Full bolt on's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    what is FBO?
    On the M3? Expensive...
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    Yeah people that $#@! about N54 exhaust prices should stop by the S65 section. Ouch
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    Not really

    filter / scoops $150
    pulley 350
    rear exhaust (any can from 500-7,500)
    turner test pipes or make your own (100-400)
    custom tune $1000

    = 408whp for me. I did it under $2500. Couple used parts and dyno access helps Click here to enlarge

    or you could be an idiot and buy a $3500 akra rear section and gain 3whp........
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