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    Thanks, Sticky

    We actually also have experience installing Racelands. . .or rather wrestling to make them fit. Save yourself the heartaches and get something quality if you can.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    OP - I recommend you take a look at the Active Autowerke downpipes. I just bought these myself and the quality is really good. They sell for $699.00 at the AA website, but some vendors sell them for less due to a special intro price. I never thought downpipes were going to make such a huge difference on my car, the car now feels like it lost a few pounds, the throttle response got way better and its just overall faster, it feels like it gained power throughout the whole RPM band. This is possibly the best upgrade I've bought for my car so far, after the piggyback. Also, the new sound is intoxicating Click here to enlarge

    I took a bunch of pics of them, if you want I can post them up. Let me know.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSDD Click here to enlarge
    Click here to enlarge Post them up!
    I'll post them later when I get home, might post a video too of the sound.

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    Here are the pics, hope you can see them. They are super light weight compared to the stock dog$#@! ones. The pic quality sucks but all I had was a DroidX to take pics. According to the technicians that installed them, the fitments were perfect.

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    They look good to me. The use of the stock mounting bracket is definitely a unique thing about these pipes as well. You should really put a review thread with those videos. That would be sweet
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    AA makes some good $#@!, i have to drive down there to take a look at their facility; maybe even pick up some DPs while im there.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    Here are the pics, hope you can see them. They are super light weight compared to the stock dog$#@! ones. The pic quality sucks but all I had was a DroidX to take pics. According to the technicians that installed them, the fitments were perfect.

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    Icarbon are amazing , ar are nice and ETS are nice

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    I would go with AR design or Fabspeed pipes.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSDD Click here to enlarge
    They look good to me. The use of the stock mounting bracket is definitely a unique thing about these pipes as well. You should really put a review thread with those videos. That would be sweet
    I'll try to take some video sometime. The droidx camera sucks, but I'll take one of a cold start up and another revving the engine when its hot.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSDD Click here to enlarge
    Haha, my empathies for your troubles. That's the conclusion I came too as well. Spend the money up front and save myself the frustration. The install isn't fun, so the less time I spent doing it the better.

    Personally I went with the AR pipes from Mike(at)N54Tuning and he was amazing to deal with. Also AR is active here now. I've heard good things about the CP-E pipes as well, but their N54 customer service is lacking imho. The look great to me as well and are competitively priced.
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    Just a word of caution for those who are doing DP installs or ANY INSTALL FOR THAT MATTER.

    NEVER FORCE PIPES TOGETHER VIA TORQUING DOWN BOLTS REAL HARD

    Why?

    Because by forcing two pipes to line up with a 3 inch long bolt, the stress you are putting on the manifold is very high. Add heat to this and you have a phenomena called creep. Creep is a mechanical condition induced by force, temperature and time. Keep something under enough force for a long time and under high temperatures and it will break at some force equal to MUCH LESS THAT COLD ULTIMATE TENSILE STRENGTH.

    If pipes dont line up right, re-adjust until they do. Never torque down until ends meet, then its a ticking timebomb that will leak exhaust at best and stress your exhaust manifolds and head.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    Just a word of caution for those who are doing DP installs or ANY INSTALL FOR THAT MATTER.

    NEVER FORCE PIPES TOGETHER VIA TORQUING DOWN BOLTS REAL HARD

    Why?

    Because by forcing two pipes to line up with a 3 inch long bolt, the stress you are putting on the manifold is very high. Add heat to this and you have a phenomena called creep. Creep is a mechanical condition induced by force, temperature and time. Keep something under enough force for a long time and under high temperatures and it will break at some force equal to MUCH LESS THAT COLD ULTIMATE TENSILE STRENGTH.

    If pipes dont line up right, re-adjust until they do. Never torque down until ends meet, then its a ticking timebomb that will leak exhaust at best and stress your exhaust manifolds and head.
    Which is why I always suggest buying quality products...not eBay.

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    It makes me cry when I see beefheads under their car cranking down on header bolts and exhaust clamps like they think they accomplish $#@!. STFU newb, dont do that; dont you know what low cycle fatigue life is? Creep owns them.
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    I've broken more bolts and studs due to idiot syndrome than mother natures effects.

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    Well, I just installed my AR Design Downpipes and let me tell you they went in smooth as hell! I didn't even have to remove the black brace thingamabob to get them in unlike the Racelands. The fit was awesome. I slapped the pipes into place and tightened the v-band connection a little and the bolt holes lined up perfectly with the exhaust flanges! I loved actually having hardware and gaskets included with the downpipes, I have no idea why it isn't included with the Raceland stuff. After getting everything lined up and tightened down, I started the car and was thrilled not to have any exhaust leaks. The downpipes sound great, although they're a little tinny sounding on a cold start with the retarded exhaust cam timing. The turbo and exhaust note more than make up for it. I just wish I got these pipes first, the quality is 1000X better than the previous set that I put on and I'm just pleased that they fit so well. THANKS AR FOR NOT MAKING JUNK! Here's a few pics comparing the stock to Raceland to AR. I had no idea that the size difference would have been so big, yet they fit so much better. Take a look...

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    damn, nice pics/write up! that quality looks so much different omg lol. the pipe looks so much fatter too! you did a nice job with those tight spaces!
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    Those comparison shots are priceless. Really glad the install went smooth for you the second time around. Props to AR for keeping up the standard for us
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ryan Mills Click here to enlarge
    Well, I just installed my AR Design Downpipes and let me tell you they went in smooth as hell! I didn't even have to remove the black brace thingamabob to get them in unlike the Racelands. The fit was awesome. I slapped the pipes into place and tightened the v-band connection a little and the bolt holes lined up perfectly with the exhaust flanges! I loved actually having hardware and gaskets included with the downpipes, I have no idea why it isn't included with the Raceland stuff. After getting everything lined up and tightened down, I started the car and was thrilled not to have any exhaust leaks. The downpipes sound great, although they're a little tinny sounding on a cold start with the retarded exhaust cam timing. The turbo and exhaust note more than make up for it. I just wish I got these pipes first, the quality is 1000X better than the previous set that I put on and I'm just pleased that they fit so well. THANKS AR FOR NOT MAKING JUNK! Here's a few pics comparing the stock to Raceland to AR. I had no idea that the size difference would have been so big, yet they fit so much better. Take a look...

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    I just want to say, this shot write here is money, is it ok to consider metal pipes beautiful?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I just want to say, this shot write here is money, is it ok to consider metal pipes beautiful?

    http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...1/03/010-1.jpg
    You know, I'm a bit disapointed I can't look at them daily.!
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    This is the response that I got from Raceland today.

    "Ryan,

    I’m sorry to hear about the hassle. We have sold many of those downpipes and you are the first to complain about it not fitting. We have many running the downpipes with no problem. I have emailed you a return shipping label that should show up in the next few hours. Attach this to the original box and ship it back. Once we get that we can refund your money. If you have any other questions or concerns please let me know.

    Thanks."

    -Makes me wonder what was wrong with my set... Maybe I did just a bad set. I honestly wanted the Raceland pipes to fit because a pipe is a pipe is a pipe, right? I guess not.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ryan Mills Click here to enlarge
    This is the response that I got from Raceland today.

    "Ryan,

    I’m sorry to hear about the hassle. We have sold many of those downpipes and you are the first to complain about it not fitting. We have many running the downpipes with no problem. I have emailed you a return shipping label that should show up in the next few hours. Attach this to the original box and ship it back. Once we get that we can refund your money. If you have any other questions or concerns please let me know.

    Thanks."

    -Makes me wonder what was wrong with my set... Maybe I did just a bad set. I honestly wanted the Raceland pipes to fit because a pipe is a pipe is a pipe, right? I guess not.
    I would think the same thing! but after seeing your pictures, $#@!. I would only go with the AR lol
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