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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    If someone can swap this into an E30 chassis, lol.. Thats my first thought when I see a motor "hmm will it fit in an E30?"
    Why would you even have to ask yourself that? There's a guy running around with an S85 V10 in his E30 so I would think just about anything else BMW comes out with short of a V12 would fit easily.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
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    There's a guy running around with an S85 V10 in his E30 so I would think just about anything else BMW comes out with short of a V12 would fit easily.
    Guys are running around with V12's as well:

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    pretty much any bmw engine fits in... haha

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
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    Go for E46 M3 and don't give a thing about 328/335, Performance isn't everything Click here to enlarge
    There's more to the E46 M3 than street/drag racing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
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    There's more to the E46 M3 than street/drag racing.
    That is exactly what Sorena is saying

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    I expect this motor to dyno ~220. The N54 is around 270, so likely a 50 whp difference and 6 mph in trap speed. That is just my guess...
    I dont know if potential buyers would be happy with that. I know i wouldnt especially when its a new gen and is historically suppose to be more powerful. Unless BMW is cutting a lot of weight from the car as well.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lughed Click here to enlarge
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    I dont know if potential buyers would be happy with that. I know i wouldnt especially when its a new gen and is historically suppose to be more powerful. Unless BMW is cutting a lot of weight from the car as well.
    Why not be happy with that?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    Why not be happy with that?

    He's probably missing the difference between whp & bhp and thinking it is will have less power than the outgoing 6 cyl in the *28 models.

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    It's not even about total horsepower that attracts. A big seller for me is ease of modification, I dont care if the car makes 100 hp stock. If I can bring it to 500 hp with a tune and meth I'll get it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by aquaskr Click here to enlarge
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    He's probably missing the difference between whp & bhp and thinking it is will have less power than the outgoing 6 cyl in the *28 models.
    You are likely correct. That, or he is thinking it will be too close in proximity to N54/N55's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    It's not even about total horsepower that attracts. A big seller for me is ease of modification, I dont care if the car makes 100 hp stock. If I can bring it to 500 hp with a tune and meth I'll get it.
    Exactly, and this will open up BMW tuning to the masses.

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    People just dont realize the significance of this new powerplant.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    People just dont realize the significance of this new powerplant.
    We do though.

    I'm hoping BB becomes the source of info for this motor, I'm excited about it. The tuners probably can't wait to get in on it either, I want a piece of that.

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    When is this motor supposed to start to show up in production cars? I wouldnt mind test driving a 128 just for $#@!s.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    When is this motor supposed to start to show up in production cars? I wouldnt mind test driving a 128 just for $#@!s.
    In the fall, shows up in the X1 first than the Z4.

    I would be interested in it in the Z4, definitely.

    Also, wondering if large singles will come faster on it than the N54. I think that is almost guaranteed actually.

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    There will be lots more room under the hood, so expect to see big singles within a year IMO.

    I wonder what the internals are capable of, if they are anything as stout as the N54 then you should see 500+ hp easily from this platform with minor work and mostly tuning.

    I just hope the DME isnt a cluster$#@!.


    I think an X1 with 500 HP would be pretty $#@!ing cool, sleeper for sure.
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    It depends on if the DME is Bosch or Siemens.

    Fueling is going to be a problem as well, although the 2.0t FSI guys have figured it out so maybe the BMW guys can too. GT30R + this motor, fun times.

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    I wonder if two of the stock turbos from this motor can fit under an N54... Since they are already small, I am sure one of the 2.0 turbos flows more than one of the N54 turbos. Maybe that is an option.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    I wonder if two of the stock turbos from this motor can fit under an N54... Since they are already small, I am sure one of the 2.0 turbos flows more than one of the N54 turbos. Maybe that is an option.
    I doubt it, it would be like why can't small stock turbos already on the market fit under the N54?

    As weird as it sounds, I'm more excited about this motor than I ever was about the N54.

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    The lower the price of admission, the more aftermarket parts available in my experience. Looks promising

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSDD Click here to enlarge
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    The lower the price of admission, the more aftermarket parts available in my experience. Looks promising
    We may be able to see greater volume from BMW aftermarket manufacturers which may lead to lower material costs and prices on other platforms. Maybe... they have already gotten used to premium pricing though.

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    Lower prices for a larger volume product is inevitable, that's why capitalism and competition is always better for the consumer. This will be a cheaper platform to mod for sure.
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