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    Red face VF-Engineering ditches GIAC - new tuner, new tunes

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Read up VF. I would stay away. Unless you get used kit and a OE tune.
    I have been really happy with thier kit and the new Maf Less tune. Car performs great (479rwhp on 91 0ct.) with perfect cold/hot start idle.

    Thank God they finally trashed the GIAC tune.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Read up VF. I would stay away. Unless you get used kit and a OE tune.
    There are a lot of VF owners that say the opposite on the other forums - its getting nothing but praise.

    Their V4 tune has been performing flawlessly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ccsykes Click here to enlarge
    VF's new tune seems to be kicking ass and taking names. I believe whatever agreement they had with GIAC must have dissolved.
    Who is doing the new tune?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Who is doing the new tune?
    VF themselves, all tuning is now performed in house.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tom @ eas Click here to enlarge
    VF themselves, all tuning is now performed in house.
    Who is the tuner?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Who is the tuner?
    Jeff Moss

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
    Jeff Moss
    Haven't heard of him, any details?

    When was this switch made? Honestly, I'm happy to hear it for VF because GIAC was the weak link. They just can't seem to get a grasp on the BMW platforms.

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    From what I understand, he was big in the Audi/VW scene. As to when the switch was made I am not sure. I just know they were working on it for long time to make sure everything was perfect and it is. My car has been running perfect. Some of the problems that some experienced (idle search) is non existent and the AFR's are spot on. I am really glad Nik had the balls to finally pull GIAC out of the equation and make things right!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
    My car has been running perfect. Some of the problems that some experienced (idle search) is non existent and the AFR's are spot on
    When did you get the new tune? Is it a custom tune?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
    I am really glad Nik had the balls to finally pull GIAC out of the equation and make things right!
    I must agree, huge change, a great change, and one that deserves its own thread.

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    Lets hope they do well. Do they have a e9x m3 kit as well?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Lets hope they do well. Do they have a e9x m3 kit as well?
    In progress... and has been for a LONG time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    In progress... and has been for a LONG time.
    Maybe its because they got rid of giac?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Maybe its because they got rid of giac?
    Maybe GIAC was the problem, I don't know.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Maybe its because they got rid of giac?
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    Maybe GIAC was the problem, I don't know.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
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    I would like to interview GIAC and VF, would be fun but I doubt they would be willing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I would like to interview GIAC and VF, would be fun but I doubt they would be willing.
    Would be cool but I think out of respect, they would decline to comment on the situation.

    What's done is done and the positive is that we now have a perfect tune for the Stg. 2 cars.

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    Jeff is the master Tech at VF when my GTI has problems with the VF-RSR kit he came and TRIED to help but not result and I sold my GTI . and from what I heard is that GIAC doesn't have spare to for VF.
    Current: 964 WB, 993, Panamera Turbo

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    Drew had the GIAC tune on his M3 and he still holds the fastest 1/4 and 60-130 NA I believe....
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    Wsir - 1:28:9
    Buttonwillow C13 - 1:54:1

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Drew had the GIAC tune on his M3 and he still holds the fastest 1/4 and 60-130 NA I believe....
    That's because he upped the boost with meth, not because the tune was better.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
    Would be cool but I think out of respect, they would decline to comment on the situation.

    What's done is done and the positive is that we now have a perfect tune for the Stg. 2 cars.
    How do we know it is perfect though?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That's because he upped the boost with meth, not because the tune was better.
    I think you misunderstood. I meant on his E92 before it was boosted
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I think you misunderstood. I meant on his E92 before it was boosted
    I did, I thought you were referring to the E46 M3.

    I would say that was a product of the conditions more than the quality of the tune as well Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Maybe its because they got rid of giac?
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    How do we know it is perfect though?
    I have about 1k miles on the new tune and the car is running perfect. My AF numbers are good and te car made nice power. The main issue that the GIAC tune had was idle search. To date, I have not experience any sort of idle search on cold or hot starts.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mpoweroo1 Click here to enlarge
    The main issue that the GIAC tune had was idle search. To date, I have not experience any sort of idle search on cold or hot starts.
    This is right, the idle search was the main issue.

    Why the hell could GIAC not fix it though? I mean, that is embarrassing and them getting dropped by VF just really knocks down GIAC's ability to tune BMW's.

    I look forward to seeing how your tune holds up as well as other owners impressions who get the new tune. Also, with this new tuner maybe now all the other products that are supposed to be out already will get done (like the E9X M3 sc).

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    i hope this tune will fix all problems in VFE kit and help all other guys to be happy with their cars Click here to enlarge

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