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    JDM M5---Purists beware!!!!!!!!!

    I had a revelation one night....must own another e39 m5!! The problem was owning a 700whp m3 had completely distorted my sense of speed and power. I knew a stock, or Dinan S2, or even ESS SC upgraded M5 just wouldn’t cut it. So, I started looking at other options, also being well aware that I didn’t have the technical expertise or time to handle any swap myself. (So, yes, I am offending purists and DIYersClick here to enlarge…sorry) Anyhow, an Ls7 would have been awesome, but substantial cost in the motor/trans and the swap plus more cost in increasing the power output ruled that out. Then I happened upon the 2jz M5 video swap on youtube. For those that aren’t familiar with it, a shop in NJ, E-Shift Performance took a 2001 e39 M5, pulled out its perfectly fine s62 and 6speed transmission and swapped in a 2jz motor with the v160 6 speed transmission. Not only that, they converted it from twin turbo to single turbo and were able to coax 540whp out if it on pump fuel. (Here is Ed's orginal thread regarding his car. http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...owered-m5.html) This was perfect. I began conversations with Mike at E-shift, and also started researching supra and 2jz information in order to become more knowledgeable. I told Mike what my goals were, and we formulated a build plan. Mike is a really cool guy and was more then willing to answer my 1000+ questions, plus he guaranteed that E-shift would warranty their work and products. That was definitely reassuring soooooo after much thought, I decided to go for it. First I had to find a car. Luckily a friend pointed me in the direction of a friend of his who was selling a minty Dinan S2. (attached are pictures of the car) As much as it pained me to think of parting out the Dinan components, the price of the car was right and the money made back from the Dinan parts would go back into the cost of the swap. Next, I had to firm up the plan with Mike and then send the car his way.

    Fast forward a few weeks, and the car is now at E-shifts facilities and the perfectly fine s62 and transmission have been pulled out. The “new” motor will be a freshened ~40k mile 2jz with stock bottom end. This motor will be sporting BC cams, a single p6765 billet turbo, a substantial fuel system, AEM v2 stand alone management plus other goodies. It will be tuned by Justin Nenni from Tuning Concepts in the hopes of making ~750whp on e85. It will be running a v160 6 speed transmission with HPF Feramic clutch. The subframe will be reinforced and a stronger rear differential will be installed. E-shift will be doing a ton of custom work on this project including the manifold, downpipe, exhaust, intercooler, AC lines, and drivesahft.

    Currently the project is somewhat at a standstill as we wait for the 2jz/v160 to arrive. Its arrival is expected sometime next week. In the meantime I have sourced a set of 19" BBS LMs....don't know if I am more excited about the wheels or the car!! Click here to enlarge I will update this thread as I receive more pictures or information.

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    First, congrats. The E-shift 2JZ swap is probably the best way to go on the E39 from everything I have seen.

    At first, I had mixed feelings but the more I have looked into it the more sense it makes. Way more power than an ESS SC for around the same money. Then again, you are getting a bunch of custom work done who knows how much this is running you but please give us some ballpark figures.

    700+ whp on E85 is not their typical swap not that there really is anything typical about a swap of this nature. From what I have seen from E-shift though, this would seem to be shooting for being the strongest E39 M5 they have put together, right?

    I would like to feature this project on the front page but need to make sure we will be getting consistent documentation from E-shift if that will be possible. I would love to see this happen from beginning to end.

    Oh, and to hell with the purists, BMW isn't even pure themselves anymore.

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    Wow, it's gonna be awesome, keep us updated! I'm really glad you didn't put a LS motor in there.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Wow, it's gonna be awesome, keep us updated! I'm really glad you didn't put a LS motor in there.
    Me too, this is pretty cool.

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    in for updates!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    First, congrats. The E-shift 2JZ swap is probably the best way to go on the E39 from everything I have seen.

    At first, I had mixed feelings but the more I have looked into it the more sense it makes. Way more power than an ESS SC for around the same money. Then again, you are getting a bunch of custom work done who knows how much this is running you but please give us some ballpark figures.

    700+ whp on E85 is not their typical swap not that there really is anything typical about a swap of this nature. From what I have seen from E-shift though, this would seem to be shooting for being the strongest E39 M5 they have put together, right?

    I would like to feature this project on the front page but need to make sure we will be getting consistent documentation from E-shift if that will be possible. I would love to see this happen from beginning to end.

    Oh, and to hell with the purists, BMW isn't even pure themselves anymore.
    Thanks. Yes, this will be the highest whp BMW swap that has come out of their shop. After selling the Dinan parts, motor, and trans I will have the cost of a decent used e39 M5 into the car. Not bad for a 700+whp 4 door sedan! The plan is for Mike to continually update me with pictures and documentation once they really dig into the swap. This will probably start happening towards the end of next week. I would love seeing it on the front page also! lol

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Wow, it's gonna be awesome, keep us updated! I'm really glad you didn't put a LS motor in there.
    Thanks man. And me too. I love single turbo power, plus the sound of a 2jz at 30psi is heavenly!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 930chas Click here to enlarge
    Thanks. Yes, this will be the highest whp BMW swap that has come out of their shop. After selling the Dinan parts, motor, and trans I will have the cost of a decent used e39 M5 into the car. Not bad for a 700+whp 4 door sedan! The plan is for Mike to continually update me with pictures and documentation once they really dig into the swap. This will probably start happening towards the end of next week. I would love seeing it on the front page also! lol
    Well I think I may be able to get this on the front page but the first post needs some more pics about the swap. Maybe just adding the E-shift teaser vid might be a good intro?

    I kind of want one of these.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well I think I may be able to get this on the front page but the first post needs some more pics about the swap. Maybe just adding the E-shift teaser vid might be a good intro?

    I kind of want one of these.
    haha....you need one of these!!!
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    Here is a vid that i found

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    is really one big turbo better than 2 for that car? or is it cause of the tight space situations.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    is really one big turbo better than 2 for that car? or is it cause of the tight space situations.
    Define better.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Define better.
    less turbo lag(probably negligible), lower EGT, probably easier fueling. for having 2 turbos than one big one.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    less turbo lag(probably negligible), lower EGT, probably easier fueling. for having 2 turbos than one big one.
    I'd say the single would have a lower EGT, and less hardware to worry about, cheaper too. The twins of equivalent power probably would have less lag. I don't see how the fueling would be different either way.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    I'd say the single would have a lower EGT, and less hardware to worry about, cheaper too. The twins of equivalent power probably would have less lag. I don't see how the fueling would be different either way.
    Twins producing equivalent power as a large single will have less lag is what you are saying? To get twins to match the power of a large single you are going to sacrifice spool as you will need two impellers who individually will need more exhaust gas to spool than the single.

    Smaller twins will have better spool...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Twins producing equivalent power as a large single will have less lag is what you are saying? To get twins to match the power of a large single you are going to sacrifice spool as you will need two impellers who individually will need more exhaust gas to spool than the single.

    Smaller twins will have better spool...
    but i think thats what we meant tho. we didnt mean two large turbos instead of 1 large. like 2 gt28rs instead of like a gt42 etc..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    but i think thats what we meant tho. we didnt mean two large turbos instead of 1 large. like 2 gt28rs instead of like a gt42 etc..
    I understand but the two smaller turbos will have an overall larger weight/surface area to spool to match the single which is more difficult with the exhaust gas split. This is at least what my understanding from some of what I have read from guys going big single vs. twins on the Supra.

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    BimmerBoost user 930chas is having E-Shift Performance swap a Supra 2JZ-GTE into his E39 M5

    No doubt there are going to be some BMW purists who freak out when they see this. They will avert their eyes and start shouting "blasphemy" as they see the supra turbo motor in the E39 M5. Well, if you happen to see one of these "purists" acting in such a matter, please smack some sense into them. E-shift performance has done several of these swaps in to the E39 and E36 and we must say it makes a lot of sense. The BMW S62 simply has not seen the aftermarket development the 2JZ-GTE has and to get big power out of it who knows how much money it would take. This swap makes a lot of sense especially financially and the motor does not look out of place in the E39 M5 engine bay. We will be posting updates on the progress as soon we get them from 930chas. In the mean time, check out some of the work E-shift has done.

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    Wow...this car has blown my mind...I'm new to the whole tuning scene...but WOW...the power of a Supra and the body of a BMW...I think I'm in love...Click here to enlarge

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    I'm still in love with the 4th gen Supra styling..... fresh paint and the right rims/suspension really make that car look good, and it's easy to get the power to match.

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    One word can only be used to describe this... SICK! Who cares what BMW purists think!

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    this is ballin man, these engines barely have a limit on anything you can upgrade everysingle thing and make it even more of a beast. i'm in love with this even tho its not a bmw engine lol.

    that turbo is so sexy, it looks like my gt35 except mines not in my car... yet Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    I'm still in love with the 4th gen Supra styling..... fresh paint and the right rims/suspension really make that car look good, and it's easy to get the power to match.
    That cars styling has held up remarkably well.

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    I fail to see the advantage of this swap vs a turbo m/s5x.

    seriously

    different though

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
    I fail to see the advantage of this swap vs a turbo m/s5x.

    seriously

    different though
    Iron block? Better aftermarket?

    The M/S5X would be lighter.

    Wonder what the cost breakdown would be.

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    A kid I went to school with had a 600+whp 93 supra... It was the wildest car I've ever been in... Wish I could own one... 2jz in the m5 is going to be mint... Glws

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