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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gbreee90 Click here to enlarge
    Although CP-e makes a good FMIC, I dont think its better than HPF; or I would have bought it.
    Why do you feel this way?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Why do you feel this way?
    1. It has one of the largest cores
    2. (not a big deal but) it doesn't block the radiator
    3. It is a very well made piece, best quality I have seen
    4. It uses the factory connections
    5. It has the best support brackets out of all the intercoolers

    But I guess it really comes down to preference.
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    Love my HPF.
    With our cars not sure why anyone would by one that blocks air to the radiator...
    Oh, yeah. It's cheaper.Click here to enlarge

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    I got my HPF and it's for sure the BEST quality fmic I've ever seen, plus it's huge, easy to install and uses stock c clips so you wont have a headache going back to stock.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gbreee90 Click here to enlarge
    1. It has one of the largest cores
    2. (not a big deal but) it doesn't block the radiator
    3. It is a very well made piece, best quality I have seen
    4. It uses the factory connections
    5. It has the best support brackets out of all the intercoolers

    But I guess it really comes down to preference.
    You make a good argument.

    I don't see the blocking of the radiator being that big of a deal. How much more does one FMIC block the radiator than another? In this case I guess HPF vs. others.
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    Isn't the only thing blocking the radiator on a CP-E FMIC the oil cooler?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You make a good argument.

    I don't see the blocking of the radiator being that big of a deal. How much more does one FMIC block the radiator than another? In this case I guess HPF vs. others.
    Its only about 2" not that big of a deal; but I guess every little bit counts.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gbreee90 Click here to enlarge
    Its only about 2" not that big of a deal; but I guess every little bit counts.
    2 inches really isn't much of a factor, I would be more concerned with the volume of the FMIC.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    2 inches really isn't much of a factor, I would be more concerned with the volume of the FMIC.
    Well it does have an extremely large core.
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    The HPF has the most volume besides the Big Tom. Another important part that people sometimes forget is actually getting a majority of the air to pass through the core rather than around the sides. The air pressure builds up at the face of the intercooler and this creates low pressure zones around the edges that cause the air to be drawn around. The most heat transfer happens with air traveling through the fins and tubes, assuming the air is below the temperature of the compressed air traveling through the intercooler. Every modern OEM intercooler has an intercooler duct for this reason.

    I know the HPF mounts flush, does the Big Tom?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    The HPF has the most volume besides the Big Tom. Another important part that people sometimes forget is actually getting a majority of the air to pass through the core rather than around the sides. The air pressure builds up at the face of the intercooler and this creates low pressure zones around the edges that cause the air to be drawn around. The most heat transfer happens with air traveling through the fins and tubes, assuming the air is below the temperature of the compressed air traveling through the intercooler. Every modern OEM intercooler has an intercooler duct for this reason.

    I know the HPF mounts flush, does the Big Tom?
    If they really wanted to make an intercooler that kept heat down they would use copper. But that would be expensive and im not sure how much more it would weigh.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gbreee90 Click here to enlarge
    If they really wanted to make an intercooler that kept heat down they would use copper. But that would be expensive and im not sure how much more it would weigh.
    LOL, I found a thread where some people were talking about that a while back, but the cost, weight and weakness of copper weren't worth the gains in heat transfer ability.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    LOL, I found a thread where some people were talking about that a while back, but the cost, weight and weakness of copper weren't worth the gains in heat transfer ability.
    Im sure they could use copper somehow, maybe line the inside or something. But im sure it wouldn't be worth the extra money.
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    My old 1979 316 had a copper radiator, only reason to use alu is price (maybe weight as well)

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    I went with the CP-e Intercooler because it offered an extra oil cooler.
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    I've got the cp-e 1st and then sold it before installing it to get the HPF, didn't like the built quality of it much, not bad but not near HPF

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    I got the cp-e, good fit, really felt the largest one could squeze in that doesnt cover the radiator.

    But I beleive that the bigtom is probably better, and it was originaly built for less than $300(incl everything, I am supprised to still read that people beleive it was $300 for the core only) in Sweden. We have 25% VAT and income tax up to 55%. It must be possible to get a BT even cheaper in the US.

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