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    Who makes the best FMIC?

    Just doing some studying on this issue and would love to have some insight
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    Which have you looked at? There are several out there right now, and some require cutting while others you can just drop in.

    Helix, CP-e,HPF,AA to name a few. Some guy even made his own: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...highlight=fmic

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    I know there are tons of people making the FMIC I think cutting is not an issue for me. MAX performance is what I'm looking for. Its really hot and humid in Taiwan
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    Helix and Cp-e (with the extra oil cooler) and HPF IMHO
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    Can't go wrong with ams
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    Helix and Cp-e (with the extra oil cooler) and HPF IMHO
    Not familiar with Helix but have seen a lot of info and a review on the CP-E setup here. Also reading the white paper on their intercooler convinced me they put in the proper amount of research and development... and then some, solid option.

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    If I had extra $$ I would buy Cp-e and sell my ams... Not saying the ams is bad
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mazdaspeed6 Click here to enlarge
    If I had extra $$ I would buy Cp-e and sell my ams... Not saying the ams is bad
    Why CP-E over AMS?

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    how much does the CP-e go for anyways?

    I'm picking up a 135i 6MT that's why I've go all the questions
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    once took a ic a sponsor I will not say which is and was good for a year

    now I have one I bought in Switzerland and the coupling and is the best thing done to this day better response and increased performance and flow and temperature maejor

    just for a little over 300 euros
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    The best Intercooler is one that you get a local shop to fabricate.
    Cheapest.
    All the intercoolers for the N54 are overpirced.

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    HPF for most volume (besides "Big Tom") and best design, with AMS being the same but smaller. CP-E is cool because of published data and the oil-cooler mount, but I still believe the HPF will beat it when it comes to internal resistance to flow, and the HPF already has a volume advantage.

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    I keep hearing that this "big tom" intercooler works the best and is the most aggresive one

    and can be had for around $300 us
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    how much will shop charge to add all the piping to bigtom ? and what kind of shop to look for ? thanks

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    I'm thinking HPF or CP-e
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by n54BoostOnCoke Click here to enlarge
    how much will shop charge to add all the piping to bigtom ? and what kind of shop to look for ? thanks
    At the end of the day you are looking at at least another $300 in fabrication and labor time...which puts you up at 6-700. Welding is not cheap and neither is time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by n54BoostOnCoke Click here to enlarge
    how much will shop charge to add all the piping to bigtom ? and what kind of shop to look for ? thanks
    From the sound of it probably best to simply get a tried and true solution, the cost difference is marginal.

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    Honestly Sticky, an Intercooler is an Intercooler. Bar and Plate is a Bar and Plate.

    Tried and true doesn't mean much. Half of these companies charge customers an arm and a leg.

    If someone has technical knowledge, they can easily call any number of companies and get an intercooler made for CHEAP with the end takes welded on. Spearco does it, so does Garrett.

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    i have been thinking about making an intercooler for the BMWs at a decent price, but that price means I make absolutely nil on it...parts and piping arent cheap and neither is it to have my friend weld them up for me. I guess when you can sit there and mass produce them the price comes way down..for a batch of hand made products that outdo everything else out there..well the price will be a little bit more.

    I am always the type of person to try to make something myself...if the time and the reasoning permits. For basic bolt ons your average intercooler kit being sold now will do the job just fine. that 4hp you make at top end with xyz intercooler instead of abc is not gonna make you win any drag races...but for some reason everyone wants it cuse it makes them feel better at the end of the day.


    You dont see toyota supra guys $#@!ing and complaining that front mount kits for their cars is over 1000 dollars...the problem is that half of the BMW owners on the other forum are kids...and kids dont have money. So everyone complains they are getting the 'bmw tax' and slapping on chinese downpipes and knockoff cheap intercoolers. How about we support our guys here in the US by buying some hand made products instead of buying $#@! that is mass produced in Taiwan by some dude who gives a $#@! less if it leaks or not?

    sorry for the rant.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by unfor Click here to enlarge
    Honestly Sticky, an Intercooler is an Intercooler. Bar and Plate is a Bar and Plate.

    Tried and true doesn't mean much. Half of these companies charge customers an arm and a leg.

    If someone has technical knowledge, they can easily call any number of companies and get an intercooler made for CHEAP with the end takes welded on. Spearco does it, so does Garrett.
    Pretty much this.

    So many different intercoolers to choose from, has anyone even seen any huge differences in performance from one to the other? Nope, its just a brand battle, they are all pretty much the same except for maybe AMS. Those are the only endtanks I can say are designed for flow with minimal seperation and vortex formation. Its pricey but it would be my pick. and even then they are all pretty much the same performancewise, same $#@! really.
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    Well image is always a factor that is for sure.
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    what about ets ? is it good ? or GODSPEED ? why noone talks about godspeed it looks good to me no ? and the price is RIGHT

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by unfor Click here to enlarge
    Honestly Sticky, an Intercooler is an Intercooler. Bar and Plate is a Bar and Plate.

    Tried and true doesn't mean much. Half of these companies charge customers an arm and a leg.
    I disagree, an intercooler is not an intercooler and getting what you pay for does often hold true. Yes, many of these companies charge a lot but if you are going to play with BMW's you should know that going in.

    Tried and true is important as you have a setup that has been tested and you know fits and works. Trying to piece together your own setup may seem like a good idea but by the time you get the core, and then the pieces and piping you need in addition, it isn't really worth the headache unless a couple hundred bucks mean that much to you. I mean, what would a complete install with all the necessary pieces on the "big Tom" cost vs. the other intercooler options out there? Plus, you get support here.

    I'm with you, I definitely agree that the parts are all too expensive. But there is also piece of mind in getting a complete setup that has been fully engineered from beginning to end for your application. I'm thankful we have both choices.

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    One of my buddies just did a very nice fabrication of the big tom. It is super clean. I checked it out tonight. He had a fabricator custom weld piping so that it didn't fit very ghetto. At the end of the day - he spent close to what he would have on one of the ones mentioned. He likes it and the datalogs show it functions well. But it took a lot of time and energy and extra cash - cash was what he was trying to save.

    If I had to do it over again, I would go with CPE - proof of performance is provided in their literature - and the oil cooler is a bonus.

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