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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    California is failing every race.
    Ya thats cause its the Ferrari you buy for your wife. Its not a performance car really Ferrari said it competed against the Mercedes SL

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Did the ESS car and that C63 run?

    It's not like we would see the run if the ESS car lost anyway, why am I asking.
    I dunno I didn't check I just stumbled on this vid.

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    Wow, that C63 just made it a even worse in my eyes

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
    I dunno but this run makes me laugh at that M3 I smell an ESS kit for sale soon...
    I donīt get it , if you boost 7,5psi and the circumstances are similar you will get the same result with a G-power, Gintani or ESS, it is all about the boost and a tune.
    You are laughing at your one car ...Or do you think 7,5 psi Gintani boost are so much better?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
    I dunno but this run makes me laugh at that M3 I smell an ESS kit for sale soon...
    I donīt get it , if you boost 7,5psi and the circumstances are similar you will get the same result with a G-power, Gintani or ESS, it is all about the boost and a tune.
    You are laughing at your one car ...Or do you think 7,5 psi Gintani boost are so much better?
    That is definitely NOT true. The engineering and component selection behind the entire system comes into play, and the overall most efficient system will make the most power at 7.5psi.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge

    That is definitely NOT true. The engineering and component selection behind the entire system comes into play, and the overall most efficient system will make the most power at 7.5psi.
    There are not so many components to change, boost, fuel and timing. And if you have enough fuel there is just timing to play with if boost are the same. The hp should be similar if temp and fuel are the same,.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    I donīt get it , if you boost 7,5psi and the circumstances are similar you will get the same result with a G-power, Gintani or ESS, it is all about the boost and a tune.
    This is very true. The variable is meth though, that is why some kits can exceed others at the same boost.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    The better Meth kits available have guages and controllers that are connected to the ECU/DME-whatever to retard boost or timing-wastegate or whatever in the event that meth is not flowing.

    As for people calling meth a bandaid (in S65, not N54-different discussion).. Im no pro, but the simple fact that spraying even 100% distilled water will drop the IAT, combat detonation, and combat heatsoak, better than the IC. so adding meth as well, to give some octane is a just a benefit, why not use it.. anyone claiming otherwise is just simple minded..
    X2 even water would just help as a chemically cooling agent. adding the meth is just and upper for octane levels when it mixes with water Click here to enlarge

    totally agreed water/meth is way to go, safely of course.

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    a heavily modified 335i would take them both.
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    Pea, are you really trying to justify these results? Even at 5psi I'd expect an e92 M to trap higher than 118-119; bolt on NA cars are just shy of those trap speeds....

    I hope there is an issue with his car, as that would explain everything.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    There are not so many components to change, boost, fuel and timing. And if you have enough fuel there is just timing to play with if boost are the same. The hp should be similar if temp and fuel are the same,.
    AFR's, timing, intercooler efficiency, restrictions in the manifold/piping, octane can all make a huge difference, even at the same boost level.

    The bottom line is that this car completely failed to impress, and it is the most you can get from ESS right now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    ven at 5psi I'd expect an e92 M to trap higher than 118-119
    Little difficult to speculate on trap speed but from what I have seen from the ESS cars, I would say that kit could pull 122.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
    a heavily modified 335i would take them both.
    Eh.... the California, ya. The 335? How heavily modded are we talking, upgraded turbos?

    We will know better when the ESS M3 and LM's RB 335 run.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    There are not so many components to change, boost, fuel and timing. And if you have enough fuel there is just timing to play with if boost are the same. The hp should be similar if temp and fuel are the same,.
    And guess what is going to change the temps even if they are in the same ambient conditions and the same boost level with the same fuel..... (intake, cylinder, exhaust gas, oil, water, etc.)


    The efficiency of the induction system.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Little difficult to speculate on trap speed but from what I have seen from the ESS cars, I would say that kit could pull 122.
    Which kit?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    Which kit?
    The one in the video.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The one in the video.
    I don't see that car trapping anything higher than 120

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    I donīt get it , if you boost 7,5psi and the circumstances are similar you will get the same result with a G-power, Gintani or ESS, it is all about the boost and a tune.
    You are laughing at your one car ...Or do you think 7,5 psi Gintani boost are so much better?
    Actually it has nothing to do with who makes the kit that M3 performed subpar and imo doesn't not make anywhere near 625hp. I think either A. This specific car has a problem B. The kit isn't making the advertised power. Either way I'd say the same thing if it was a Gintani kit or AA kit , G-power kit any some homebrew kit my opinion isn't based on favoritism its based on the big picture which is a 625hp car with LESS weight barely won against a Heavier 453hp car. There just is no excuse for that and after seen that Ferrari run vs that C63 it further proves my point. And NO the cats in the exhaust are not the problem it is impossible to gain 40whp switching from 100cell race cats to no cats someone is smoking something if they think that is the cause of this cars Poor performance. AT best you will see a 15-20whp gain. Hell I barely gained 20whp switching from 400cell STOCK cats to no cats so gimme a break. That Ferrari should have gotten waxed by pretty much any S/C E9x M3 at any boost level theres just no excuse. I think my old M3 would hang with that Ferrari before i had a supercharger.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    I don't see that car trapping anything higher than 120
    Well, if ESS cars ever get out to a drag strip we will see. I think 122 is accurate though.

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    Hpf also has a hood failsafe for there meth system. It will drop to low boost setting if meth runs out or something happens. I'm taking my buddy to dyno his ess cfr kit(e46) see what his numbers are. I bet the e46 makes better power the e92 v8 which I don't understand. Lol.

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    Well we will see if there are something wrong with the white SC m3 i will meet him next weekend together with, Ferraris lambos and a lot if other cars

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    Well we will see if there are something wrong with the white SC m3 i will meet him next weekend together with, Ferraris lambos and a lot if other cars
    Cool, keep us updated on if you find anything out.

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    Ess seems like a fail to me.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Eh.... the California, ya. The 335? How heavily modded are we talking, upgraded turbos?

    We will know better when the ESS M3 and LM's RB 335 run.
    Is this ever going to happen?
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    trying brothers.. my schedule changes daily.. 2 goals though. 1. re-run Byz to see if that was a fluke and either of us has more to offer, and 2. destroy an ESS M.

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    Your still trying to run that ess m3 or did you find another guy. It doesn't seem like the one dude wants to run. Not to mention his boy trash talks me and to other forum members via pm.

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