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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    Any dyno numbers? That E92 should be around 650whp and a stage 2 hpf with meth is low 600whp. So I'd say the E92 had the advantage on the number.
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    i would love to mess with someone near houston in my turbo E36- since i still haven't found anyone that has given it a good run.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    Any dyno numbers? That E92 should be around 650whp and a stage 2 hpf with meth is low 600whp. So I'd say the E92 had the advantage on the number.
    Active is listing the Level 3 at 700 BHP/480 Ft Lbs while running 9 psi on the Rotrex C38, but VCM stated they just nearly hit 600 WHP with the same setup... That probably is with their 100% catless X-Pipe, Rear Section & 93 octane/98 RON. And while the E92 has more power and a more favorable trans (DCT) keeping the engine in the "happy" zone, the E46 is a lighter car and the powerband is less "peaky"/high RPM with the turbo S54.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    i would love to mess with someone near houston in my turbo E36- since i still haven't found anyone that has given it a good run.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Active is listing the Level 3 at 700 BHP/480 Ft Lbs while running 9 psi on the Rotrex C38, but VCM stated they just nearly hit 600 WHP with the same setup... That probably is with their 100% catless X-Pipe, Rear Section & 93 octane/98 RON. And while the E92 has more power and a more favorable trans (DCT) keeping the engine in the "happy" zone, the E46 is a lighter car and the powerband is less "peaky"/high RPM with the turbo S54.
    IIRC, this same E92 is listed elsewhere with 750bhp. So that would put it somewhere slightly lower than 650whp, maybe 640whp. Regardless, still higher than the stage 2 hpf.

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    But even still, without any dyno numbers from both cars, we can all just guess at the whp numbers.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    IIRC, this same E92 is listed elsewhere with 750bhp. So that would put it somewhere slightly lower than 650whp, maybe 640whp. Regardless, still higher than the stage 2 hpf.
    Crank listings mean nothing it's just under 600 whp.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    But even still, without any dyno numbers from both cars, we can all just guess at the whp numbers.
    No we know what these setups put out. The hpf m3 should have more power and torque. Interesting eh?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by G0TB00ST? Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
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    How much power you putting down?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    No we know what these setups put out. The hpf m3 should have more power and torque. Interesting eh?
    Not interesting at all. lol You're trying to make a claim off of a crappy video where we don't even know what the exact number are on these cars. I've personally witness supercharged e9x m3s vs hpf m3s. This video means nothing. Maybe at a different angle and more runs, we might actually be able to conclude something.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    Not interesting at all. lol You're trying to make a claim off of a crappy video where we don't even know what the exact number are on these cars. I've personally witness supercharged e9x m3s vs hpf m3s. This video means nothing. Maybe at a different angle and more runs, we might actually be able to conclude something.
    It's not a crappy video I think it could use more than one camera angle though. We know what the numbers are it's obvious where you're going as you guessed way, way above what the setup puts out. Just search for dyno numbers here for the setup if you need to see it. The HPF setup will actually have more potential leeway in power than Active SC.

    You've personally witnessed SC E9X M3's versus HPF M3's and no video eh? Convenient.

    Either way, we'll see more soon enough. E46 M3 owners aren't going to like those results either.
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    You have a lime green hpf E46 right?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by G0TB00ST? Click here to enlarge
    No but I have a stage 3 green machine with carbon fiber pedals and a high performance plastic wheel
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    IIRC, this same E92 is listed elsewhere with 750bhp. So that would put it somewhere slightly lower than 650whp, maybe 640whp. Regardless, still higher than the stage 2 hpf.
    750 BHP / ~640 RWHP on a is going to be 10-11 psi on a stock motor/stock compression with a bolt-on supercharger kit. That's not only a very aggressive setup & would require 100+ octane, it would also be setting a stock motor WHP record (which I'd expect to be a little more advertised) and is def in the grey area with long term reliability on stock components.


    Is it feasible? Absolutely, just add another 1-2 psi and hope the engine stays together because it's prob not a long term/reliable setup. Regardless, the turbo E46 M3 is still going to have a better powerband than the supercharged E92 M3.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Regardless, the turbo E46 M3 is still going to have a better powerband than the supercharged E92 M3.
    Not better, just more torque down low but also not as linear.
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    Regardless, these videos are crappy. Yes I have seen similar cars run in person. A stage 2 hpf with proper traction and good tuning can definitely beat a stage 2 AA E9x M3. Lets discuss this when a proper video with better info on both cars are presented.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
    A stage 2 hpf with proper traction and good tuning can definitely beat a stage 2 AA E9x M3. Lets discuss this when a proper video with better info on both cars are presented.
    Based on what? 1/4 mile times say the opposite though, how is that?

    Anyway, like I said, I definitely intend to do the whole S54 versus S65 thing. Having owned both it's a topic dear to my heart.
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    1/4 times are a lot different than roll racing.. depending on car setup. This isn't the only video posted showing a stage 2 or even a stage 1 w/ e85 vs a supercharged e9x m3 fyi. Go search the web a bit. But like I said, this is a waste of a discussion due to crappy video with crappy info. Good luck finding some turbo e46 guys to help you with your comparison. You aren't the only person that has owned both btw. But for now, I'll stick to my stance, turbo E46 M3s are the King right now.

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