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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Personally if he knows 9 psi is going to blow the engine for sure then running 7-8 psi is crazy! 1 psi is going to blow the engine -_- Enough with the nonsense already.
    Who claimed 9 psi was going to blow anything? With what blower? With what fuel?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    625 kit running 8-9 psi hmm.. Gauges are sweet though!

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    That is $#@!ing cool. I wonder how accurate the calculated hp/tq numbers are though. the hp seemed way to low...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Who claimed 9 psi was going to blow anything? With what blower? With what fuel?

    Roman did and the gang follows along.

    I actually made a list of all the lies and excuses I have to hear day to day.

    ESS Fanboy logic-

    9 psi= Bad/BOOM
    8 Psi= SAFE/No problem
    13.0:1 Afr =Pulls timing/No problem
    No Intercooler= No problem/ We don't suffer from heat soak (immune) + Power goes up!
    Meth= The Devil/ If it fails your engine will instantly blow.

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    How the $#@! are you immmune from heat soak with no intercooler?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How the $#@! are you immmune from heat soak with no intercooler?
    Beats me they pulled out a graph showing the car ran faster 1/4 times the hotter it got. We are talking 170 Iat
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    The only issue with running a non intercooled kit is the obvious heat build up. Once your Iat's start rising your hp will start dropping and there will be no way to bring it back.

    Have you ever logged iat's on the road Chris?


    The customer reviews of the ESS VT1 kit tell a different story. I have not seen any customer complaints on power with this kit.

    AIT's can run in the 175+ range and this car will still make power as long as the fuel quality is good enough and the tuning is running rich enough. The DME will only limit timing if the car is running too lean or the car has crap fuel in it. My VT1-550 runs in the 130-140 range during 85 deg days at the track and I have 0 issues with power. The ESS and VF kits pull cold air direct from the front of the vehicle which helps alot VS having a filter stuffed in the engine bay. Starting with a lower air temp to begin with can go a long way in a non intercooled design along with proper tuning. Saying a supercharged car simply needs an intercooler to make consistant power is ignorant. I have seen intercooled cars suffer from heat soak and need to cool down between laps due to poor design, too much boost, restrictions to factory coolers etc..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Beats me they pulled out a graph showing the car ran faster 1/4 times the hotter it got. We are talking 170 Iat
    lol


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    The only issue with running a non intercooled kit is the obvious heat build up. Once your Iat's start rising your hp will start dropping and there will be no way to bring it back.

    Have you ever logged iat's on the road Chris?


    The customer reviews of the ESS VT1 kit tell a different story. I have not seen any customer complaints on power with this kit.

    AIT's can run in the 175+ range and this car will still make power as long as the fuel quality is good enough and the tuning is running rich enough. The DME will only limit timing if the car is running too lean or the car has crap fuel in it. My VT1-550 runs in the 130-140 range during 85 deg days at the track and I have 0 issues with power. The ESS and VF kits pull cold air direct from the front of the vehicle which helps alot VS having a filter stuffed in the engine bay. Starting with a lower air temp to begin with can go a long way in a non intercooled design along with proper tuning. Saying a supercharged car simply needs an intercooler to make consistant power is ignorant. I have seen intercooled cars suffer from heat soak and need to cool down between laps due to poor design, too much boost, restrictions to factory coolers etc..
    no heatsoak? ok. hold on..

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    Notice time stamps
    run 18-3:33:50
    run 19- 3:34:34

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    Nice little heatsoak drop there

    Now, notice that testing meth on/off, it combats heatsoak, but ultimately cannot beat it out.. also notice timestamps- no glory runs, just testing power loss from heatsoak, lets see it uncorrected and zero smoothing for a no frills evaluation

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Notice time stamps
    run 18-3:33:50
    run 19- 3:34:34

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    Nice little heatsoak drop there

    Now, notice that testing meth on/off, it combats heatsoak, but ultimately cannot beat it out.. also notice timestamps- no glory runs, just testing power loss from heatsoak, lets see it uncorrected and zero smoothing for a no frills evaluation

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    Bottom was with meth? 800cc nozzle?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Bottom was with meth? 800cc nozzle?
    i believe it was 450 or 500cc nozzle. i was turning it on/off throughout

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    Andrew: i like how you ask roman about the lean afr again and he changed the topic to meth. how is it there kit is the only one going lean when every other kit making the same power can run safe afr. not seeing a fuel flow problem with them but i guess it happens when you make 3psi and hit over 600whp heheh. what injectors they using cheapen out and maxing them out or they are just button mashing like a noob

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    lol that guy is a idiot LM. Just look at the graphs when they aren't smoothing 5 the drive ability sure looks horrible.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VCMPower Click here to enlarge
    Andrew: i like how you ask roman about the lean afr again and he changed the topic to meth. how is it there kit is the only one going lean when every other kit making the same power can run safe afr. not seeing a fuel flow problem with them but i guess it happens when you make 3psi and hit over 600whp heheh. what injectors they using cheapen out and maxing them out or they are just button mashing like a noob

    Not sure why they wont answer that question. I know they did to a customer and told him that's how they tuned it and it was pulling timing so it was safe. Unfortunately the customer doesn't know this actually creates more heat if the power does not drop off.

    As for running out of injector we aren't maxing out our level 3 injectors or the stock fuel pump yet with the ysi at 600+ hp.

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    You guys ever going to show some numbers of the ysi.

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    i just want to hear this ysi please. do i need to come to miami to hear it lol?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    i just want to hear this ysi please. do i need to come to miami to hear it lol?
    Yes you do lol

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