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    RB Turbo 135 Vs ESS 625 DCT M3

    HOW DID I MISS THIS!?

    This is a race Ive been dying to see for YEARS, literally YEARS! see: http://bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?2508-RB-335-Vs

    And here we have BMS (Terry's) RB Turbo'd 135 Vs Longboarders DCT M3 with ESS 625 S/C

    @Terry@BMS is making circa 500rwhp, maybe 520? ( about the same as I in the days of the other linked thread)

    @longboarder is making circa 580rwhp, depending on what fuel and pulley he decides to run


    You may remember the ever long and fictitious comments about how the DCT is worth about 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged- something I NEVER could believe...
    Then we have the argument about USABLE HP.

    Seems this is how it plays out in the real world, when dyno sheets aren't worth their weight..

    T has consistently trapped about 129 mph, and its been said that basic 625 kits can run 130+.. so how does the M not only lose, but gets PULLED on up top..


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    $#@! yea ! Nice run Terry.... Looks like the m got a nice start ehhh jump too Click here to enlarge
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    The M3 owners probably got a heart attack when this happened. Do we know how much power the M3 was making on that run? Was he having any issues? Kinda hard to believe a car that has better gearing and supposedly more power gets beaten by a RB 135i.
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    That was a fun race. Weight plays a role. I'm at 3450# w/ driver and 500whp. Longboarder is probably closer to 3750# and 570whp. And he had his windows open. We'll get to rematch next time around. Although I might have a few more HP. Click here to enlarge
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    Damn, nice roll! Grats Terry
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    Great kill Terry. Rep for you sir.

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    Very impressed with that run... The top end charge is very impressive. Great rides for both guys
    We stay swingin...
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    What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?
    lol....hahahahaha
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    Rb turbos ftw! Although that supercharged m3 isn't too shabby either, thanks for sharing.

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    @LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
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    A boosted M3 will only trap 130+ in negative DA. That a great run terry what a beast of a car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
    @LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
    uhh.. i think @Chuckd is getting vtt stage 2's, very close, a tad smaller than RBs, but should be close. other than that, i think all the close people got rid of their stuff

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?
    lol.. there was like 3-4 of them, dont think they post here anymore Click here to enlarge you remember,, it was when AKH trapped 126 and M33 trapped 125, they said it was because m33 was 6mt he trapped so low, and akh was dct he trapped so high.. and then all the graphs and calculations..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
    LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
    @Ghost135 has an RB Turbo 135 with Meth, that also runs on E85 also AND he lives in North NJ (ESS M3 country with ACM) Click here to enlarge Maybe we can organize him to run somebody with a 625 or 650??
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    @Ghost135 has an RB Turbo 135 with Meth, that also runs on E85 also AND he lives in North NJ (ESS M3 country with ACM) Click here to enlarge Maybe we can organize him to run somebody with a 625 or 650??
    sounds good....maybe after may6th so my V can stretch its legs a bit Click here to enlarge
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    M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
    sounds good....maybe after may6th so my V can stretch its legs a bit Click here to enlarge
    Why bother? We're gonna need to bolt 2 N54's together to even keep in the V in sight's distance
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Why bother? We're gonna need to bolt 2 N54's together to even keep in the V in sight's distance
    I wont go WOT Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by piele_bps Click here to enlarge
    M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
    yes, it robs about 80hp, or 8 mph.. the same difference in HP these cars have..Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    And he had his windows open
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by piele_bps Click here to enlarge
    M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
    Don't understand this when going for top speed here. Drag increases exponentially with the windows down as speeds increase. Perhaps M3 driver underestimated the "little" 135i and didn't feel the need to roll up the windows...

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    It is more fun with the windows down fwiw...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blitz535i Click here to enlarge
    Don't understand this when going for top speed here. Drag increases exponentially with the windows down as speeds increase. Perhaps M3 driver underestimated the "little" 135i and didn't feel the need to roll up the windows...
    it could also be argued that the 135 isn't as aerodynamic as the m3 too...

    Also, wasn't this the m3 that pulled on a ST n54?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
    Also, wasn't this the m3 that pulled on a ST n54?
    It's running the same supercharger setup (ESS VT2-625), but the M3 is performing exactly like it should. The ST is a dyno queen & the RBs actually perform (proven by all the videos & N54 records). Be interesting to see when people start record hunting with the Vargas Stage 2 & 3s
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    @Ghost135 has an RB Turbo 135 with Meth, that also runs on E85 also AND he lives in North NJ (ESS M3 country with ACM) Click here to enlarge Maybe we can organize him to run somebody with a 625 or 650??
    Better do it fast, i believe it is up for sale.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky68 Click here to enlarge
    Better do it fast, i believe it is up for sale.
    Yea, don't think Ghost is planning on keeping that car "as is" for much longer
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