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    Although VAC has done amazing things with that VF blower and track duty, if i were to want to use the M for exactly what its made for and not so much of the midnight runs, Id keep it N/A. Ive been having so much damn fun revving this $#@! out with a perfectly tune (yes,still TQ-less, but perfectly tuned) motor, i cant wait to get it on NJMP. I can only imagine the fun in a VAC stroked S65

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 330indy Click here to enlarge
    My bet is that the S55 will rev to 8000 also, knowing the M fanatical engineers....
    i too enjoy the S65's v8 sound
    Nothing fanatical about the ///Marketing engineers anymore....
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    Nothing fanatical about the ///Marketing engineers anymore....
    lol yeh i have to agree the M badge is a load of marketing hype these days. sad really sad

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    If you're gonna regularly track your E9x M3, you're better off getting a stroker motor -- Whether it's Dinan, RD Sport or VAC. It'll be a properly built motor & def withstand the track "abuse" a lot better than a stock motor with a a blower bolted on.
    Agreed but not Dinan IMO or RDsport really. Keep it 4.4 and keep material in the cylinders.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Although VAC has done amazing things with that VF blower and track duty, if i were to want to use the M for exactly what its made for and not so much of the midnight runs, Id keep it N/A. Ive been having so much damn fun revving this $#@! out with a perfectly tune (yes,still TQ-less, but perfectly tuned) motor, i cant wait to get it on NJMP. I can only imagine the fun in a VAC stroked S65
    It's better NA but alas HP is HP.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It's better NA but alas HP is HP.
    AND THATS the great dilemma.. I think that issue is solved now though

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Agreed but not Dinan IMO or RDsport really. Keep it 4.4 and keep material in the cylinders.
    so get a gts engine? lol Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inter1032 Click here to enlarge
    so get a gts engine? lol Click here to enlarge
    GTS crank.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    GTS crank.
    how much is it?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inter1032 Click here to enlarge
    how much is it?
    I think VAC said something like $3-4k.

    @Mike@VAC

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    I have 5 4.4L S65 cranks in stock. $4,995 Click here to enlarge

    Oh, I will have 2 3.5L S65 cranks in stock in 3-4 weeks too ;-)

    All Made in USA

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
    Oh, I will have 2 3.5L S65 cranks in stock in 3-4 weeks too ;-)
    S54. But that's awesome nonetheless!

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
    I have 5 4.4L S65 cranks in stock. $4,995
    So tempting for my M3. Sooooooo tempting.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    So tempting for my M3. Sooooooo tempting.
    How about you break in your car, smash some records & some competition, prove the DCT upgrade can handle the power and THEN consider a new crank/increase displacement
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    How about you break in your car, smash some records & some competition, prove the DCT upgrade can handle the power and THEN consider a new crank/increase displacement
    I like to look forward positively. I can think ahead, why not? Part of the fun.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    S54. But that's awesome nonetheless!
    No no no. I have 3 S54 3.5L cranks in stock.

    I'm talking about a 3.5L S65 crank. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
    No no no. I have 3 S54 3.5L cranks in stock.

    I'm talking about a 3.5L S65 crank. Click here to enlarge
    Well I'll be damned!

    Wonder what one can rev a 3.5 liter S65 to... going to help with displacement limited classes like those hillclimb guys I take it.

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    Yes. We will find out soon Click here to enlarge

    We have clients revving 3.5L S54s to 9k. Jeeez!

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    10k S65? Click here to enlarge

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    Who's dreaming?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 330indy Click here to enlarge
    Who's dreaming?
    You are. The VAC build is FAR from OEM & completely alters the S65, allowing you to raise the redline. After making those kinds of adjustments, an additional 2k on that motor isn't really that far fetched.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 330indy Click here to enlarge
    My bet is that the S55 will rev to 8000 also
    It's been visually "confirmed" that the motor is gonna redline at 7k. @bmw335iguy did state it was a non-M inspired dash display, but I don't expect the motor getting an additional 1k in usable RPMs. 7.5k redline MAX​.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge


    It's been visually "confirmed" that the motor is gonna redline at 7k. @bmw335iguy did state it was a non-M inspired dash display, but I don't expect the motor getting an additional 1k in usable RPMs. 7.5k redline MAX​.
    BMW M keeps their secrets. No one knows the finals on the S55 except BMW at this point. But hats off to you S65 guys anyways

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 330indy Click here to enlarge
    BMW M keeps their secrets. No one knows the finals on the S55 except BMW at this point. But hats off to you S65 guys anyways
    I've never seen a tach on an M test car end up being some kind of tricky secret. When the E92 M3 was testing the tach ended up being spot on...

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    contacted a friend in BMW NA. Asked him about advice... jump on one of the last build allocations for e92 M3, or wait for the new F80/82. It'll be interesting to see what he says.....

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    A big name in the industry recently took a Euro delivery of a E92 M3. An even bigger name in the industry went on the trip with him and they got some 'behind the scenes' access that normal schlubbs like us would never get.

    They spent some time with the ///M engineers who all were sad that the S65 was going away. They are proud of the new work, but I think they all died a little when forced to move away from what has been driving the ///M brand since day 1. They are all pretty nostalgic I guess ;-)

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    I personally think it's a no brainer, however I am biased. Click here to enlarge

    I have had zero (nil/none) issues with my car (minus the engine mounts), it's literally indestructible. I really don't think you can beat a car up much worse than I do to mine... Point is - there will always be something said about an engine. There will always be some bad eggs in the crate (or however the saying goes). I don't think it's something you need to weigh your decision on, especially considering you don't want to add boost. How many engines have died that you know of? Of those, were they boosted?

    Those two last questions should indicate that it's very few - and yes, stock engines have went... We are talking like less than 1% here - and you will likely be covered under warranty based on what you are looking for.

    ^^^

    All of that is what you seem concerned about. You won't find the next engine to be close to this thing. I suggest you try test driving one to feel it out. It's so hard to describe to people - but the throttle response is so above par, it's not even comparable to much anything... Just this alone will make you smile - and let you know that you have something special under the hood.

    The engine is a jewel - especially when mated to DCT. You can bet (whatever) that the S55 will not be like this. It's not NA, it won't have the response, it definitely won't have the revs (no reason to wear an engine "just because", if they can get power with boost/torque)... I am betting it will be much like the M5/M6 motors - very nice, but nothing in comparison (race engine wise) to an S54 or S65. Sad but true. Usually the M3 is "worse" than the M5 (not sure how to word that - but basically look at the E60 vs E90 - that's what I mean). I think we can gauge a LOT by looking at what BMW has put out with the M5/6 - I wouldn't even be wasting time considering another option. Click here to enlarge

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