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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by StinkyM Click here to enlarge
    I'm thinking it most definitely will be through the use of carbon fiber. They just collaborated with Boeing to organize and develop carbon fiber at their plant in Washington.
    There is only so much weight you can lose from carbon roof, trunk, hood.

    I mean they not are making the damn car from a carbon tub.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Going by what info on their respective websites. Curb weight of C63 is listed at 3,649 lbs. M3 at 3704 lbs.

    Where do you arrive at your theory that the C63 will be over 4,000 lbs? When Benz themselves said weight reduction is on their priority list as well.
    http://www.germanboost.com/showthrea...ht-4000-pounds

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    Also realized the MB list curb weight, BMW list unladen weight.


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    Still not buying the E46 M3 weight rumors. Rumors spread by the other forum and their so-called insider.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Also realized the MB list curb weight, BMW list unladen weight.
    I don't think BMW lists unladen, they list the laden weight.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Still not buying the E46 M3 weight rumors. Rumors spread by the other forum and their so-called insider.
    No new car will ever reach weights of older cars. ok newer material technologies will help but just all the extra saftey systems, peoples want for sat navs etc etc will always see them bogged down i cant see a carbon hood saving much more than 5kg
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Also realized the MB list curb weight, BMW list unladen weight.
    Autocar had that article recently about the next W205 chassis. New weight savings techniques involved in chassis design. It will their first car to use it.

    They quoted the entry level C160 will weigh 1380kg (or about 3040 lbs.)


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I don't think BMW lists unladen, they list the laden weight.
    Just checked again, it says unladen under specs on bmwusa.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Just checked again, it says unladen under specs on bmwusa.
    Confusing and not sure how it makes sense when the weight is the same as European spec which is mandated laden isn't it?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Autocar had that article recently about the next W205 chassis. New weight savings techniques involved in chassis design. It will their first car to use it.

    They quoted the entry level C160 will weigh 1380kg (or about 3040 lbs.)
    No freaking way it undercuts the CLA.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Going by what info on their respective websites. Curb weight of C63 is listed at 3,649 lbs. M3 at 3704 lbs.

    Where do you arrive at your theory that the C63 will be over 4,000 lbs? When Benz themselves said weight reduction is on their priority list as well.
    Weird, I just checked MBUSA's website and it does say the car is 3,649 but I swear is used to be listed at 3,900. All of the magazine articles I can dig up also say 3,900 and I distinctly remember seing 3,900+ on their website.

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    3,649 is way off.

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    MB site and AMG site have different weights. Too funny.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    MB site and AMG site have different weights. Too funny.
    That's pretty damn funny.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    No freaking way it undercuts the CLA.
    Some good info on the W205. Including their new chassis tech.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...tails-revealed


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Some good info on the W205. Including their new chassis tech.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...tails-revealed
    Check this out as well: http://www.benzboost.com/content.php...e-W204-C-Class

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Some good info on the W205. Including their new chassis tech.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...tails-revealed
    I just don't believe Autocar. 3042 pounds? Ya right. It would obviously be incredible if true but this car isn't undercutting a damn Cayman.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    E30 M3 more powerful than Mercedes 190E. Handed it its ass in DTM.

    E28 M5 basically had no competition.

    E34 M5 comes along, still nothing.

    E36 M3, no real competition from Mercedes. Absurdly powerful in Euro trim with the S50. Still somewhat hard to believe it was that ahead of its time. BMW got away with giving the USA almost 100 less horsepower and the car was STILL better than everything.

    E46 M3 comes out, makes everyone wet. I camp out at the dealership until I get one basically. Mercedes only had AMG models to rival after they had a controlling interest in AMG acquiring 51% officially in 1999. This led to the supercharged W203 C32 AMG. Benz douchebags proclaim superiority. I take my stock E46 M3 and race a stock C32 AMG. I win, race after race, and post video on bimmerforums and mbworld. Much cheering ensues, parade thrown, banned from MBworld and Bimmerforums for a while due to rubbing it in the doubters faces.

    E39 M5 is still king at this time. W210 E55 has only 350 horsepower and the E39 M5 spits in its face and laughs. Not only does it have more power but a better chassis along with a real manual transmission.

    AMG gets pissed off from BMW M peeing on them and stealing their lunch money circa 2003. They deliver a supercharged W211 E55. The 600 model V12's get turbos. They raise the stakes with the 65 AMG to a level nobody thought they would which BMW has no answer for and still doesn't. BMW pretty much pretends the Benz twin turbo V12's with over 600 horsepower don't exist.

    Regardless, BMW's remain the better drivers cars. BMW makes a mistake with the E60 M5 by not delivering more displacement than the E39 M5 but the motor has 100 horses on it and up top its faster than the E55. But, Mercedes-AMG closed the gap strictly power wise.

    That brings us to today where people act like AMG's have always been more powerful yet the new M5/M6 is more powerful than the E63 even with the performance package. It was BMW's that were always more powerful for the longer period of history. The competition just caught up and BMW focused more on delivering the entire package. Well, now Mercedes has Black Series. And BMW has "i". And "i" think that's bull $#@!.
    not to mention everything is going to be a ///M these days...lol

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I always make sure to provide links in articles to all the other relevant information. I think I do it well to keep people apprised of what is going on.

    It is mandatory on the S but you can just up the boost anyway. It's just software, no big deal.

    Love the damn all wheel drive though now. Tempting.
    ya just a bit....gonna be unreal

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Autocar had that article recently about the next W205 chassis. New weight savings techniques involved in chassis design. It will their first car to use it.

    They quoted the entry level C160 will weigh 1380kg (or about 3040 lbs.)
    now that is going to be interesting....our AMG guys (actual workers from AMG can't say enough about that)

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
    Weird, I just checked MBUSA's website and it does say the car is 3,649 but I swear is used to be listed at 3,900. All of the magazine articles I can dig up also say 3,900 and I distinctly remember seing 3,900+ on their website.
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    Who gives a $#@! about the weight....it's gonna be an inline 6 and sound like a little fart can. I'm sure they will pump some nice throaty V8 rumble through the stereo tho to keep all the Bimmer fanboys happy LOL.

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    I'll select the S65 audio setting.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I'll select the S65 audio setting.
    not sure they would call an audio setting "slow"

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    not sure they would call an audio setting "slow"
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