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    Nothing ridiculous about the price, if you compare it to the S65 kits. In fact the price is way cheap for an S85. Good job Gintani!!!

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    Lol, it's not rediculous if you compare it to another rediculously-priced BMW supercharger kits! $15k for a SC kit is insane.

    A KB blower kit for the 5.0 is $7k and makes 800whp and 140mph traps (Boss 302).

    The performance is great of the above M5 kit, but it is par for course in pricing. $15k? Lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    Lol, it's not rediculous if you compare it to another rediculously-priced BMW supercharger kits! $15k for a SC kit is insane.

    A KB blower kit for the 5.0 is $7k and makes 800whp and 140mph traps (Boss 302).

    The performance is great of the above M5 kit, but it is par for course in pricing. $15k? Lol
    How can you compare the simplicity of a domestic car to a complicated european luxury sedan. lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by disruptv Click here to enlarge
    Sticky, with upgraded headers (ie evolve-- if that even helps)how much psi do u think the stock motor can take safely? I see people running 7-8psi on stock s65 motors
    Same as the S65 across the board.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    Lol, it's not rediculous if you compare it to another rediculously-priced BMW supercharger kits! $15k for a SC kit is insane.

    A KB blower kit for the 5.0 is $7k and makes 800whp and 140mph traps (Boss 302).

    The performance is great of the above M5 kit, but it is par for course in pricing. $15k? Lol
    You don't compare domestic to European for price for mods. Fail.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    A KB blower kit for the 5.0 is $7k and makes 800whp and 140mph traps (Boss 302).
    \show me this. i would say thats a fallacy, or built motor/race engine and definitly NOT realistic

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    I would like to see some track times??

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    Lol, it's not rediculous if you compare it to another rediculously-priced BMW supercharger kits! $15k for a SC kit is insane.

    A KB blower kit for the 5.0 is $7k and makes 800whp and 140mph traps (Boss 302).

    The performance is great of the above M5 kit, but it is par for course in pricing. $15k? Lol
    There are a lot more Mustang owners who supercharge their cars, economies of scale allow Mustang tuners to recoup their R&D costs more easily than a tuner who works on the E60 M5 because there are comparatively few M5 owners who will supercharge their cars, so each kit they sell has to cost more.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
    There are a lot more Mustang owners who supercharge their cars, economies of scale allow Mustang tuners to recoup their R&D costs more easily than a tuner who works on the E60 M5 because there are comparatively few M5 owners who will supercharge their cars, so each kit they sell has to cost more.
    Oh please. It's a custom mounting bracket and belt, it's not made out of some exotic metal or process. Just like the $3k+ exhaust systems, it's got a BMW tax.

    The price and power for the 5.0 supercharger kit is legit. That motor is extremely impressive and makes outstanding power out of the box. They only charge $15k for supercharger kits on BMWs because people out there will pay for it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
    Oh please. It's a custom mounting bracket and belt, it's not made out of some exotic metal or process. Just like the $3k+ exhaust systems, it's got a BMW tax.

    The price and power for the 5.0 supercharger kit is legit. That motor is extremely impressive and makes outstanding power out of the box. They only charge $15k for supercharger kits on BMWs because people out there will pay for it.
    I think what he means is that the cost to test M5 products for POWER costs money to R&D. Same goes for supercharger, I am pretty sure its gonna cost more blowing a M5 engine compared to a Mustang engine. I do believe the price is still a little high compared to what you get but then again I am not testing so I dont know how much goes into it but the risk to build any mod for the M5 to have actualy power increases will cost more to R&D because of the lower M5 owners compared to Mustangs. I think it the kits were priced more competitvely around $7K there would be alot more ppl getting them and more sales but I dont know the figures these tuners are working with. Maybe they can chime in.

    Seeing how alot of E60 M5s dont have warrantys and the cost of them has reduced alot since new, I would expect to see alot more SC kits once they prove the reliability factors thru members on forums. Gintani needs to step up with some real road kill videos, sort how how those RPI guys did it but then again they had some fishy tactics going on with their dynos I heard. Fan boys for the most.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
    Oh please. It's a custom mounting bracket and belt, it's not made out of some exotic metal or process. Just like the $3k+ exhaust systems, it's got a BMW tax.

    The price and power for the 5.0 supercharger kit is legit. That motor is extremely impressive and makes outstanding power out of the box. They only charge $15k for supercharger kits on BMWs because people out there will pay for it.

    We understand the part about hardware. I'm sure all of us are familiar with what parts would reasonably cost. The tuning however is probably the major difference. Knowing the tuning differences between BMW highly encrypted ECU and other ECU are pretty hard. Not to many companies like to mess with them. BTW, do you see more Mustangs or M5's on the street.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
    Oh please. It's a custom mounting bracket and belt, it's not made out of some exotic metal or process. Just like the $3k+ exhaust systems, it's got a BMW tax.

    The price and power for the 5.0 supercharger kit is legit. That motor is extremely impressive and makes outstanding power out of the box. They only charge $15k for supercharger kits on BMWs because people out there will pay for it.
    Dumbest post ever.


    Sticky, have to disagree on how it looks though. It could be cleaner IMO. That would be the only thing holding me back from getting one.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
    Oh please. It's a custom mounting bracket and belt, it's not made out of some exotic metal or process. Just like the $3k+ exhaust systems, it's got a BMW tax.

    The price and power for the 5.0 supercharger kit is legit. That motor is extremely impressive and makes outstanding power out of the box. They only charge $15k for supercharger kits on BMWs because people out there will pay for it.
    It's still a small market you can't just price it like you can for a 5.0. Look at how long these kits have even taken to come out, it isn't until now really that we are getting well tuned and well priced S85 kits. Until now, the market was in the $40k range for S85 superchargers.

    If it's so cheap and simple, you go do it and blow everyone else away.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
    Dumbest post ever.
    Definitely not the smartest post ever...

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    mild sarcasm

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    Dyno dynamics dyno reads so low...140hp in drivetrain loss? We had 53hp on a DYNOmite Land and Sea..(If we now belive all actually have 507hp in the engine)

    The final figure doesnt say much in my opinion though, its the diffrence between stock and modified that counts so 165+ up is serious! Good Work!!

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    The Gintani kit looks outstanding! If my beast weren't giving me problems, I'd love to jump on the promo pricing Click here to enlarge $13,500 installed is a STEAL!


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    \show me this. i would say thats a fallacy, or built motor/race engine and definitly NOT realistic
    I agree that the pricing for the E60 S/C kit is very acceptable.. But he's actually got a point about the KB on the Boss 302.. This Boss is down around my way. I believe the first ever with this setup.

    Her mods are listed in the video..




    She made 854rwhp @ 21psi. That's her car on KB's website..

    http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/S...ustang2011.htm

    Trust me, I was pretty damn shocked when I first heard about what it put down.. But it's true. Click here to enlarge

    MSRP for the LC 3.6 Mammoth kit is $7,549.00

    http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/P.../PriceList.pdf





    09' M3 AA Gen 2 Stage 2 SC
    07' C6 Z06
    11' Jaguar XFR
    08' CLS63 AMG
    12' BOSS 302
    11' E92 335i
    08' EVO X GSR- FBO+1100cc Injectors
    10' SVT Raptor 6.2

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    11' M3 Comp DCT
    09' C63 AMG - Silver
    01' C5 Z06- White, FBO+Cam

    11' E92 335is- Sapphire Blk
    11' F10 550i- Graphite
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    10' Audi S5 6-Speed
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    08' E90 335i 6-Speed- Blk
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    The Gintani kit looks outstanding! If my beast weren't giving me problems, I'd love to jump on the promo pricing Click here to enlarge $13,500 installed is a STEAL!




    I agree that the pricing for the E60 S/C kit is very acceptable.. But he's actually got a point about the KB on the Boss 302.. This Boss is down around my way. I believe the first ever with this setup.

    Her mods are listed in the video..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nJiK...1ZM4Q&index=14


    She made 854rwhp @ 21psi. That's her car on KB's website..

    http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/S...ustang2011.htm

    Trust me, I was pretty damn shocked when I first heard about what it put down.. But it's true. Click here to enlarge

    MSRP for the LC 3.6 Mammoth kit is $7,549.00

    http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/P.../PriceList.pdf





    Dude that's insane. +800whp on stock internals?

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    Lol. Looking at it again, it does. But this one is yummier Click here to enlarge


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nappy_time Click here to enlarge
    The intake reminds me of twinkies.

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    We will be showing you all videos as soon as we get a chance.

    Please be patient we have been quite busy with a couple very exciting projects that will soon be revealed with some teasers.

    Stay tuned.

    Thank you all for the support and criticism.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    Dude that's insane. +800whp on stock internals?
    Correct.. 100% stock internals
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    08' CLS63 AMG
    12' BOSS 302
    11' E92 335i
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    10' SVT Raptor 6.2

    Past:
    11' M3 Comp DCT
    09' C63 AMG - Silver
    01' C5 Z06- White, FBO+Cam

    11' E92 335is- Sapphire Blk
    11' F10 550i- Graphite
    10' E90 335i
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    08' E82 135i A/T- Sapphire Blk
    10' Audi S5 6-Speed
    04' SVT Lightning

    11' F10 550i- Sapphire Blk
    08' E90 335i 6-Speed- Blk
    10' Audi S5
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    09' CTS-V Sedan- Blk Raven
    06' E60 M5 SMG

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    Correct.. 100% stock internals
    I want to see runs between Gintani E60M5 vs M5 F10....Click here to enlarge
    I have wait for those video runs in 1/2 years time no..
    Cannot decide anything before that.

    Juha

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ekselent Click here to enlarge
    I want to see runs between Gintani E60M5 vs M5 F10....Click here to enlarge
    I have wait for those video runs in 1/2 years time no..
    Cannot decide anything before that.

    Juha
    Exactly this is what I would want to see also. Unbiased owners playing a head to head game. If you guys could get a ESS VT2 kit in the mix this could bring up a lot of sales. IMO if the Gintani car can keep up with the VT2 I would jump on this deal but if it outperforms it then thats much better for other clients. Lets see what Gintani puts out for videos for us that are on the fence.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by heavytiresmoke Click here to enlarge
    Exactly this is what I would want to see also. Unbiased owners playing a head to head game. If you guys could get a ESS VT2 kit in the mix this could bring up a lot of sales. IMO if the Gintani car can keep up with the VT2 I would jump on this deal but if it outperforms it then thats much better for other clients. Lets see what Gintani puts out for videos for us that are on the fence.
    ESS will never put their kit up against Gintani directly for any platform. It's been tried before.

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    Well if Gintani could put out some videos with fair competitors then I think they could get a good amount of buyers unless they are already busy. I personally would def like to go down and visit them but just elapsed on time. Some videos and some 60-130 times would be nice.

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