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    Eager to hear how these work with this engine. I am in the market for replacements or a minimal upgrade soon and I am totally into what youre doing Tony.

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    Any updates with stage 1?
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    I've been running a set on my car last few weeks until stage 3 are available. They're definitely an upgrade over stock. I'll show you guys some dynos once I get them from the shop. Didn't have a USB stick with me to save the dyno files. For the price they're worth it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    I've been running a set on my car last few weeks until stage 3 are available. They're definitely an upgrade over stock. I'll show you guys some dynos once I get them from the shop. Didn't have a USB stick with me to save the dyno files. For the price they're worth it.
    That's seriously good to hear as I am very interested in a stock like alternative that won't have the annoying wastegate issue down the road.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    I've been running a set on my car last few weeks until stage 3 are available. They're definitely an upgrade over stock. I'll show you guys some dynos once I get them from the shop. Didn't have a USB stick with me to save the dyno files. For the price they're worth it.
    I heard that you recently beat a 535 with RB's just using the Stage 1's from Vargas.......Click here to enlarge

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    I'm very skeptical of Stage1 type turbos but having said that some dynojet charts and logs could change my mind! Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I'm very skeptical of Stage1 type turbos but having said that some dynojet charts and logs could change my mind! Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DCAFS Click here to enlarge
    I heard that you recently beat a 535 with RB's just using the Stage 1's from Vargas.......Click here to enlarge
    This is in fact true...Click here to enlarge D is just waiting to get the graphs from the dyno owner and he will post them up. My favorite part is where Shiv "says your stage 1's are a failure" without a set even being tested yet, Pretty funny.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    This is in fact true...Click here to enlarge D is just waiting to get the graphs from the dyno owner and he will post them up. My favorite part is where Shiv "says your stage 1's are a failure" without a set even being tested yet, Pretty funny.
    What a joke that man is.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I'm very skeptical of Stage1 type turbos but having said that some dynojet charts and logs could change my mind! Click here to enlarge
    Also, lets not forget that Dzenno's head is ported.......so not exactly an apples to apples comparison with more flow going on.

    Knowing Dzenno, he is probably pushing them to see what they are capable of, so probably not a daily driver tune either.

    But let's see if he has more info.

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    Just like everything else we'll be waiting a few more months for it to show up.......Click here to enlarge

    Before I get killed it's a joke!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DCAFS Click here to enlarge
    Also, lets not forget that Dzenno's head is ported.......so not exactly an apples to apples comparison with more flow going on.

    Knowing Dzenno, he is probably pushing them to see what they are capable of, so probably not a daily driver tune either.

    But let's see if he has more info.
    Ported head and LOWERED compression which would actually hurt your low end TQ and power. You will only see a benefit from the lowered compression running extremely high boost levels, which you will see he is not. I knew someone was going to try to throw that out there. Were making 725 on a stock non ported head with no issues, to all the people saying the stock head doesn't flow, not sure what what to tell you. But just to be clear, his lower compression would actually reduce numbers at lower boost levels, not raise them. And I told him to break them, he said what should I do, I said try to break them. He has tried and so far so good. But he is running very reasonable top end boost numbers and seeing great results. I keep bugging him to get the graphs...Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Ported head and LOWERED compression which would actually hurt your low end TQ and power. You will only see a benefit from the lowered compression running extremely high boost levels, which you will see he is not. I knew someone was going to try to throw that out there. Were making 725 on a stock non ported head with no issues, to all the people saying the stock head doesn't flow, not sure what what to tell you. But just to be clear, his lower compression would actually reduce numbers at lower boost levels, not raise them. And I told him to break them, he said what should I do, I said try to break them. He has tried and so far so good. But he is running very reasonable top end boost numbers and seeing great results. I keep bugging him to get the graphs...Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DCAFS Click here to enlarge
    Also, lets not forget that Dzenno's head is ported.......so not exactly an apples to apples comparison with more flow going on.

    Knowing Dzenno, he is probably pushing them to see what they are capable of, so probably not a daily driver tune either.

    But let's see if he has more info.
    I forgot about that. Well I've heard of subpar results from Helix, AR, Bat-mo-wheel (?), etc, but I think what they all had in common were factory turbines with a compressor wheel change only. Anyway Dzenno post the data and make us a believer! Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Ported head and LOWERED compression which would actually hurt your low end TQ and power. You will only see a benefit from the lowered compression running extremely high boost levels, which you will see he is not. I knew someone was going to try to throw that out there. .Click here to enlarge
    I had no idea he had lower compression.....not trying anything devious here at all Tony. Just thought he only had the head ported.

    I'm just happy to hear that stage 1's are a nice alternative to OEM's since that is probably what I am going to buy.

    BTW, my source had good things to say about the construction of the VT's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I forgot about that. Well I've heard of subpar results from Helix, AR, Bat-mo-wheel (?), etc, but I think what they all had in common were factory turbines with a compressor wheel change only. Anyway Dzenno post the data and make us a believer! Click here to enlarge
    Dude trust me I am right there with you on all the Bat-mo hype BS. That is why I marketed these things all along as a good alternative to stock replacement. Decent size compressor upgrade, turbine clip, and thrust upgrade. When D hit me with the numbers. I was very surprised.

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    So do we know any specs on the 535 that got beat by the S1's?

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    So if the logs are coming what were the numbers?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 07Tundra Click here to enlarge
    So do we know any specs on the 535 that got beat by the S1's?
    Uh hmmm. D, its your buddy, do you want to put him on blast? If it was me I wouldn't.. haha

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    I mean you dont have to put him on blast but specs wouldn't hurt.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Uh hmmm. D, its your buddy, do you want to put him on blast? If it was me I wouldn't.. haha
    If he didn't wanna get put on blast, he should've won Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    If he didn't wanna get put on blast, he should've won Click here to enlarge
    He shouldn't have raced!!!!Click here to enlarge

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    Interested in some dynos/results! Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    If he didn't wanna get put on blast, he should've won Click here to enlarge
    LOL'd

    Our head does suck though. I mean it works... but it doesn't change its suckiness factor. The turbo does a good job to band-aid over it and it's less of an issue for stock frame stuff I guess, but yeah. His head will change the curve some but it shouldn't really change the peak hp numbers, since that's more related to airflow from the turbo. As long as he's using racegas E85 or meth shenanigans it should all be kosher since those will be maxed out conditions, 91 octane may be a bit misleading.

    I bet that he will be pushing some big torque numbers in the midrange around 4k rpm. I doubt those torque numbers before the cross would be 100% similar to a stock head, sadly, but regardless in for results and disproving negative hype (even my own lovingly negative hype) and seeing what these things can do! Click here to enlarge

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