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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
    However dyno HP sells.
    Unfortunately this is very true. Nobody even questions the spikes.

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    This one right here is pretty blatant, 524 to 550 with a spike, come on:

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    I couldn't agree anymore Sticky. This why I continue to participate on all the forums readily active. I like to purposely ask questions to not only learn, but to try and get others to start thinking a bit more.

    I asked about those spikes in various threads over the internet and have never gotten an answer except for potential reasonings within this sole thread. I would love to hear from ESS why I happen to notice this trend in some of their dynos. I am not accusing them of misleading the community, because for all I know, as many of you have said, it could just be a by-product of the throttle closing/opening.

    What I'm trying to say is that there needs to be some sort of revival in this E9X M3 community. Not to get suckered by peak numbers but to really learn the engineering and reasoning behind what's for sale out there. I feel like that would be the only way someone can truly decide what's best for them in an unbiased manner.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
    I like to purposely ask questions to not only learn
    Good luck asking questions on the other ones where they jump all over you or brush it off. Either way, you can't question it the way you can here.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
    I asked about those spikes in various threads over the internet and have never gotten an answer except for potential reasonings within this sole thread. I would love to hear from ESS why I happen to notice this trend in some of their dynos.
    Don't expect to get an answer.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
    What I'm trying to say is that there needs to be some sort of revival in this E9X M3 community. Not to get suckered by peak numbers but to really learn the engineering and reasoning behind what's for sale out there. I feel like that would be the only way someone can truly decide what's best for them in an unbiased manner.
    Well I already tried once to do a comparison between all the kits. I guess I can try again. With Active and Gintani here plus all the ESS guys we should be able to get all 3 together. That leaves VF for the US kits and they are in Anaheim so I can probably convince them.

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    I think common sense in the industry is not to look at the spiked numbers. It can happen with many cars. Even some auto's upshift at redline & give a spiked number. Most tuners don't look at that number & it shouldn't be used for marketing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    I think common sense in the industry is not to look at the spiked numbers.
    Unfortunately many tuners put them out seemingly on purpose and nobody says anything except "good job"...

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    Good god that is jumpy even with 5 smoothing!

    Funny enough we have never got this spike on our kit upon the throttle closing. We do have 3 large Bov's vs 1 small bov though.





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    damn thats a smooth graph!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Funny enough we have never got this spike on our kit upon the throttle closing.
    Why do others and why do they even seem to be able to induce it?

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    After looking at them it seems they did not go to redline? I know when we bounce of the limiter it does not do this.

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    I don't think you can induce a spike by design in a charger kit. Centri's will ramp up boost quickly in the last few hundred rpm. hitting the rev limiter or dyno limiter or the gearbox upshifting will cause a spike. So I think the spike is more dyno-related.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    I don't think you can induce a spike by design in a charger kit.
    Even on the dyno?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    hitting the rev limiter or dyno limiter or the gearbox upshifting will cause a spike. So I think the spike is more dyno-related.
    I see but if you wanted to cause this you could, right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Even on the dyno?

    I see but if you wanted to cause this you could, right?
    I suppose you could if you set the dyno limiter too soon or too high and hit the rev limiter.

    This is how you do it right:

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    I suppose you could if you set the dyno limiter too soon or too high and hit the rev limiter.
    Thanks, what I wanted to know.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Just as I expected! Dyno vs Real Life Click here to enlarge
    yup. whats that saying? " the BS stops when the green light pops?"

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    @LostMarine + rep for you Steve for the video and bumping it. Wish I saw this earlier.

    Great to see someone post this comparison even with a loss.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
    @LostMarine + rep for you Steve for the video and bumping it. Wish I saw this earlier.

    Great to see someone post this comparison even with a loss.
    Win or lose, I post results, some people say that too, but really dont. I post everything up Click here to enlarge

    i saw some people talking about the difference between my kit and the AA kit at an Atco event,when the AA kit had everything against it, I was on AK's drag radials and he was spinning pretty bad.

    not sure if @NikB316 has seen it yet either.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Win or lose, I post results, some people say that too, but really dont. I post everything up Click here to enlarge

    i saw some people talking about the difference between my kit and the AA kit at an Atco event,when the AA kit had everything against it, I was on AK's drag radials and he was spinning pretty bad.

    not sure if @NikB316 has seen it yet either.

    Apparently you love your kit.

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    Hey Roman, quick question for you, is the VT1-535 with upgraded pulley that we see in this video is exactly the same as the new VT1-550 kit!?

    That car ran our older 535 kit with a pulley size very similar to the new 550. I was told the car was making high 400 whp without the water meth. I never got a dyno from the owner so I can only go by what I was told but the few times we talked I was told the car ran great. I would say the new 550 is very close in power to that car minus the water meth system he ran.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Apparently you love your kit.

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    Hey Roman, quick question for you, is the VT1-535 with upgraded pulley that we see in this video is exactly the same as the new VT1-550 kit!?

    That car ran our older 535 kit with a pulley size very similar to the new 550. I was told the car was making high 400 whp without the water meth. I never got a dyno from the owner so I can only go by what I was told but the few times we talked I was told the car ran great. I would say the new 550 is very close in power to that car minus the water meth system he ran.
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    The car did 470 for one run, next run heatsoaked down to 458, meth put it at a consistant 465 ish,

    Im not going to go all out, and say what an $#@! AJ was in my communications with him, or that the car wasnt strong at WOT, (it was) but due to the fact hardware was sub-par, nowhere near what I had been lead to believe (many 3rd party people have said so as well after reviewing); the fact that anything not WOT was utter crap for drivability/ felt like an on/off switch (many 3rd part drivers can attest to this as well); had a serious issue of continuing to boost/accelerate after releasing the gas peddle, that I can safely say those kits dont belong on an M3..old notch-back mustang, sure, M3- whats supposed to be a refined driving machine, absolutely not.

    Loved it so much so that i fell out of love with my car, took a loss in selling the kit, only to find out that I love everything about the M but it needs more power- only this time i wont compromise because one kit COSTS less- because i know for a FACT, that you actually GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, and I chinced out on that one.. wont make that mistake again..
    but id rather not discuss thos things publicly, or else ill have a crew of ess lovers coming after me at the next eventClick here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    i saw some people talking about the difference between my kit and the AA kit at an Atco event,when the AA kit had everything against it, I was on AK's drag radials and he was spinning pretty bad.
    That was probably my favorite part of that thread.... That Roman goes & brags about how your E92 with the ESS-550+ with DRs barely outperformed Akash's E90 AA on Street Tires, with the old HKS blower.

    Selective data mite work over there, but that $#@! doesn't fly for people evaluating all the variables. And @Andrew@activeautowerke, THANK YOU for calling out Roman's claim on LM "loving" the ESS kit + the super lean AFR they're running at redline. Let's see if we get a straight answer before the thread gets closed.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Loved it so much so that i fell out of love with my car, took a loss in selling the kit, only to find out that I love everything about the M but it needs more power- only this time i wont compromise because one kit COSTS less- because i know for a FACT, that you actually GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, and I chinced out on that one.. wont make that mistake again..
    Should've held out for that VF kit from VAC Click here to enlarge Still amazed how close your car kept up with that Space Grey ESS-625
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge

    That was probably my favorite part of that thread.... That Roman goes & brags about how your E92 with the ESS-550+ with DRs barely outperformed Akash's E90 AA on Street Tires, with the old HKS blower.

    Selective data mite work over there, but that $#@! doesn't fly for people evaluating all the variables. And @Andrew@activeautowerke , THANK YOU for calling out Roman's claim on LM "loving" the ESS kit + the super lean AFR they're running at redline. Let's see if we get a straight answer before the thread gets closed.


    Should've held out for that VF kit from VAC Click here to enlarge Still amazed how close your car kept up with that Space Grey ESS-625
    oh yea, i forgot about the lean AFR's.. but that other Ess car was a DCT 600, i dont think he upgraded yet, i know he bought the 625 upgrade though

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    Lol these idiots can never stop over at ESS. My car had idle control valve issue back then and Mike from VAC can verify it.I brought to them before i went to the dealer who did it under good will.
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    Ill just stay over here and hang with you guys. Its so frustrating dealing with ignorant people. They treat Roman likes hes Jesus and everything he speaks is the truth. 9 psi is going to blow the engine (yeah I made that up) but you better believe me because we have undersold all of our kits and reached 600. Never trust someone who tells you 13 afr is the way they wanted it to be at redline.

    We own every supercharged market except the s65 and I believe when people start seeing more on the street and actually drive them we will own that market as well.

    Rome will fall Fellas and when it does they will have nothing to stand on.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    Im not going to go all out, and say what an $#@! AJ was in my communications with him, or that the car wasnt strong at WOT, (it was) but due to the fact hardware was sub-par, nowhere near what I had been lead to believe (many 3rd party people have said so as well after reviewing); the fact that anything not WOT was utter crap for drivability/ felt like an on/off switch

    Loved it so much so that i fell out of love with my car, took a loss in selling the kit, only to find out that I love everything about the M but it needs more power
    Sounds like we had similar dealings with the infallible AJ. I am still waiting on my "warranty refund" for failing smog for 3 months, and having to flash to stock software on my dime for his inability to read my tune requirements - rear O2's on please. The registration fines I also paid on my dime. Their warranty language is garbage. I spent more on DMV penalties, towing fees, and dealer charges getting my car "fixed" than I spent on Asbjorn's "custom tune." Even after forwarding him the original invoice which clearly shows the mishap - not even a "whoops." That is not a company I want to deal with ever again.

    @Andrew@activeautowerke - The AA kit for the S54 was always my favorite over the years. The recent developments on the S65 kit and owner's results should sell it for you - although I am leaning towards Evolve as my favorite S65 kit. AA is a close 1(b) for sure!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
    Ill just stay over here and hang with you guys. Its so frustrating dealing with ignorant people. They treat Roman likes hes Jesus and everything he speaks is the truth. 9 psi is going to blow the engine (yeah I made that up) but you better believe me because we have undersold all of our kits and reached 600. Never trust someone who tells you 13 afr is the way they wanted it to be at redline.

    We own every supercharged market except the s65 and I believe when people start seeing more on the street and actually drive them we will own that market as well.

    Rome will fall Fellas and when it does they will have nothing to stand on.
    Clearly you think that just because people dis-agree with you that they it's because of the kit they are running on their car.
    The fact of the matter is that, in a lot of your posts, you come off as extremely arrogant yet insecure. Cross-posting in multiple forums to instigate inflammatory comments is a pussy move. Over here you are a tough guy yet over there you you write a "tough guy" post and then delete it (saying you're tired of wasting time) and then run over here and continue to "waste time".
    A lot of people don't want to buy products from a D-Bag's.
    When I was shopping for a blower I looked at 3 companies. AA, ESS & Gintani
    - When I called and spoke with you I told you I was considering ESS & Gintani. You spent the majority of the conversation $#@!ting on ESS, so I said what most customer will say... "OK thanks, let me think about it". What I was thinking was "what a D-Bag" and then immediately scratched AA off my list.
    - Both ESS & Gintani said nothing negative about any company but focused on the features of their kits. For that reason I have spent $THOUSANDS with both company and will continue to do so.

    I'm sure you are a nice guy but damn you are so defensive and always the center of drama somewhere. Running back and forth to forums, speaking out of both side of your mouth is a douche move.

    Spend more time representing AA rather rather then YOUR EGO and I guarantee you will sell more, make more $$$$$ and undoubtedly be a better representation for AA.

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