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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
    The M6 owner's eyes got a big and then proceded to tell me that he was done for the day and not doing any more races
    Sounds like he didn't have the HP he was bragging about.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Sounds like he didn't have the HP he was bragging about.
    You are correct Sticky...because it was at high DA's.

    For those signed up for the roll on events, Shift-S3ctor reps write down our estimate crank HP on our rear window so that the participants can better organize races with one another. This M6 was not stock - it had mods and the owner estimated crank HP at 580. Was it making 580 HP that day? No way - it was at Big Willow which is at 2,300 ft elevation and the roll-on was in the afternoon with temp guages reading upper 80's/low 90's on the hot taramac. DA's were likely over 4,000 ft...maybe even closer to 5,000 ft.

    Even though my crank HP is around 450 at sea level, it's also around 450 at 5,000 ft DA's since the turbo's are still targeting 19psi peak taper to 16.5 psi.

    I would like to run a modded M5/M6 at sea level doing a roll-on from around 40 mph into the the triple digits. From a dig would be no contest.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
    I would like to run a modded M5/M6 at sea level doing a roll-on from around 40 mph into the the triple digits. From a dig would be no contest.
    For the M5 or you?

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    I can do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds on the VBox. Uphill. Starting in 2nd gear. With street tires.

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    With a headwind too?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
    I can do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds on the VBox. Uphill. Starting in 2nd gear. With street tires.
    Impressive... I only wish we were closer, I'd run you from 0-160+ any day, temp, altitude, uphill etc.. All in good fun of courseClick here to enlarge
    You may have a shot of taking me, but at least I'll sound damn good while getting pulled.. Click here to enlarge



    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    With a headwind too?
    Lol.. With 4 attractive young females in the back seat, A/C on full blast and 4 sets of golf clubs in the trunk Click here to enlarge

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    Sticky I know you posted this originally but the owner of the 135 needs a proper tune + meth and that little car will be quite something! N54's + meth is just a crazy combination and in a little 135...wow those cars fly. I've been the passenger in Terry Burger's 135 a few times and it's very impressive.

    The thing about the N54's (totally different than the n55's) is that with meth, they just keep pulling and pulling. Probably not as strong as a modded M5/M6 in triple digits, but the fact that they are so light should provide for a large initial advantage. Obviously the M5/M6 will pass it eventually given the higher terminal speed. Case in point, I ran two ESS supercharged 535 e92 M3's (one 6MT and the other was 7DCT). You would think these cars would have a significant top end advantage to my 335 with 4 bolt ons.
    But that was not the case...in both races (one on the back at Big Willow the other at the Trona Airstrip) starting at ~ 40 mph, I got the initial jump (torque advantage) but then the M3's gained and passed me until triple digits where I reversed the M3's pull and started pulling on them. On the run with the 7DCT, we were both disadvantaged slightly - he had a slight boost leak and i had inconstent meth flow - but it was interesting that the outcomes were very similar.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    Impressive... I only wish we were closer, I'd run you from 0-160+ any day, temp, altitude, uphill etc.. All in good fun of courseClick here to enlarge

    Lol.. With 4 attractive young females in the back seat, A/C on full blast and 4 sets of golf clubs in the trunk Click here to enlarge

    -TZ
    Your car sounds awesome I'm jealous! It sounds like an F1 car! I'm getting rid of the 335i soon for a proper car - a 2013 e92 M3. It will be ready later this month and I already bought an Arkapovic exhaust with an MRF mid pipe. Zero cats Click here to enlarge

    I will miss the absolutely explosive torque of the 335. And it does get off the line very well - even though I've only V-Box'd it about 10 times 0-60, I'm sure I could improve on it quite a bit. The Wavetrack LSD, Michelin PSS and Procede traction control feature work very well. Different set ups but Terry's 135 was logging 3.0 and 3.1 second runs and i think hotrod182's 335 was even at 2.9 seconds if I remember correctly with street tires. I don't think I could ever achieve that, but maybe 3.2 - 3.3 if I practiced. It would be hard for a RWD 4,000 pound car like the M5 to do that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
    Sticky I know you posted this originally but the owner of the 135 needs a proper tune + meth and that little car will be quite something! N54's + meth is just a crazy combination and in a little 135...wow those cars fly. I've been the passenger in Terry Burger's 135 a few times and it's very impressive.

    The thing about the N54's (totally different than the n55's) is that with meth, they just keep pulling and pulling. Probably not as strong as a modded M5/M6 in triple digits, but the fact that they are so light should provide for a large initial advantage. Obviously the M5/M6 will pass it eventually given the higher terminal speed. Case in point, I ran two ESS supercharged 535 e92 M3's (one 6MT and the other was 7DCT). You would think these cars would have a significant top end advantage to my 335 with 4 bolt ons.
    But that was not the case...in both races (one on the back at Big Willow the other at the Trona Airstrip) starting at ~ 40 mph, I got the initial jump (torque advantage) but then the M3's gained and passed me until triple digits where I reversed the M3's pull and started pulling on them. On the run with the 7DCT, we were both disadvantaged slightly - he had a slight boost leak and i had inconstent meth flow - but it was interesting that the outcomes were very similar.
    I'm sure the meth would help him but the nature of the S85 is top end. The flat curve + high revs are what make it a strong autobahn type car. The N54 is more about power down low and runs out of breath with its tiny turbos.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
    Your car sounds awesome I'm jealous! It sounds like an F1 car! I'm getting rid of the 335i soon for a proper car - a 2013 e92 M3. It will be ready later this month and I already bought an Arkapovic exhaust with an MRF mid pipe. Zero cats Click here to enlarge

    I will miss the absolutely explosive torque of the 335. And it does get off the line very well - even though I've only V-Box'd it about 10 times 0-60, I'm sure I could improve on it quite a bit. The Wavetrack LSD, Michelin PSS and Procede traction control feature work very well. Different set ups but Terry's 135 was logging 3.0 and 3.1 second runs and i think hotrod182's 335 was even at 2.9 seconds if I remember correctly with street tires. I don't think I could ever achieve that, but maybe 3.2 - 3.3 if I practiced. It would be hard for a RWD 4,000 pound car like the M5 to do that.
    Thanks! My beast has been in the shop for a couple weeks and I'm having withdrawals from the sound alone.. 335i's will always have my respect.. From the sounds of it, yours is a beastClick here to enlarge Your M3 is going to sound amazing with the Arka exhaust! Post up some vids when you get a chance..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    That's good to know! I'm glad I could help persuade you into the beast. In all reality I can't think of a more well rounded car for a performance car enthusiast. I've daily driven mine for a year and a half. It really does it all, not to mention, IMO its the sexiest sounding sedan of all time. Click here to enlarge

    -TZ
    Gonna have to agree with you there re: the sound. I kind of wish I had an M5 compared to my C63. I love the C63 but I always stare and wonder when I see the M5 drive by. Such an amazing car with a legendary engine.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sonny Click here to enlarge
    Gonna have to agree with you there re: the sound. I kind of wish I had an M5 compared to my C63. I love the C63 but I always stare and wonder when I see the M5 drive by. Such an amazing car with a legendary engine.
    The F1 sound and 200+mph top speed are what sold me years ago. It's funny how worked up I still get when I see one passing by and I own the damn thing.. Haha Click here to enlarge

    Now your C63 is a freak of it's own.. I'm still amazed what lurks under the hood when I see one. It's hard to believe the displacement stuffed in there Click here to enlarge

    I always think about Jeremy Clarkson's comments on top gear about the C63.. Lol
    "It's not a car... It's a complete animal!"
    "You don't really drive this car, you cling on for dear life!"
    "Sure the new M3 has a top notch conventional weapon under the bonnet.. but this.. this has a nuke!" Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    The F1 sound and 200+mph top speed are what sold me years ago. It's funny how worked up I still get when I see one passing by and I own the damn thing.. Haha Click here to enlarge

    Now your C63 is a freak of it's own.. I'm still amazed what lurks under the hood when I see one. It's hard to believe the displacement stuffed in there Click here to enlarge

    I always think about Jeremy Clarkson's comments on top gear about the C63.. Lol
    "It's not a car... It's a complete animal!"
    "You don't really drive this car, you cling on for dear life!"
    "Sure the new M3 has a top notch conventional weapon under the bonnet.. but this.. this has a nuke!" Click here to enlarge
    Well said! Both cars have great features.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
    These guys are supposed to run from a dig sometime soon.. If the 135i shows up? Click here to enlarge


    Hopefully it happens, the 135i seems to think he can take the V10 down with a traction advantage Click here to enlarge BTW this M5 has the Euro Launch Control..

    -TZ

    I just rounded up a 0-130 mph vid of my M with basically the same mods as @khyber

    I think the 135i owner is in for a surprise when he sees the M5 from a dig Click here to enlarge I'll ask Khyber what's going on with their run..

    This is with an extra passenger using the US spec launch control. I should have held 1st gear a little longer and it wouldn't have bogged hitting 2nd.
    *TURN IT TO HD*

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    V10 vs a I6, Apples to Oranges, But a good vid Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mnst3r Click here to enlarge
    V10 vs a I6, Apples to Oranges, But a good vid Click here to enlarge
    Well one is boosted and one isn't.

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