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    im mistaken, 2.1 i thought it was 2.3+ 60' you would be correct then.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    In all reality there is no way DCT gives a 10mph advantage. THOUGH, I do think (and I know we disagree on this but were both entitled to our own opinions) that it is worth a couple MPH when going down the strip. Zim trapped 125 best on his setup with street tires and racegas etc. The only reason I hit 132 and run what I do is I make sure to go balls out kill mode every single time and leave absolutely nothing on the table (I put race gas in, make sure to mount my slicks), while others will head to the track without a drag setup. I guarantee if I went on street tires I would have been spinning so bad and only been able to hook in 3rd that my traps would have suffered pretty badly. Therefore, I think if the higher level 6 speed guys hit the track with a real set of slicks and race gas they way I do and Drew does then they would be able to trap around 125-127 consistently - therefore leaving about a 3-5mph difference between the DCT guys and 6 Speed guys.

    Also, you can see the difference on the street as well. How is it that Zim and Izzy had their hands full with a stock Z06 and yet I am beating ZR1's with the very same kit? And how it is that Zim got beat really bad by ItalianStallions GTR with like two boltons and yet I can run with FBO E85 GTR's in kill mode? How is it that Danny's stock CTSV killed a 6-speed VT2-625 with sal driving and lost to me? I really do think a BIG difference is the DCT. I know you secretly feel the same way, which is why you made the right move and went with DCT too Click here to enlarge. Well probably be going back and forth about this until the end of time about this lol.
    DCT does not add power, it actually has less, it is just that it spends more time accelerating. If the manual shifted as fast, in theory, it should have higher MPH through the traps.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    Dct is only like a 2-4 mph advantage honestly.
    It's also really the consistency.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    In regards to the above, LM on the 130+ traps I had I NEVER spun. My only issue was getting the car off the line and being able to go WOT in first gear because I knew I would spin. As you can see in the video, I babied the car off the line and then once in first (never spinning) I short shifted into second and STILL trapped 130+:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl-qi...0&feature=plcp

    So your telling me that if I'm able to roll off the line exactly like I do in the vid and actually be able to go WOT in first without spinning my trap will decrease? Are you crazy? Cmon man, its common sense if I am able to do EXACTLY what I did in the video and dead hook in first instead of short shifting into second before boost kicks in my trap is going to undoubtedly increase. I think my car definitely has more in it in regards to trap speeds. I mean, I understand if it was spinning off the line and essentially got a head start, but I was rolling off the line on my best runs and short shifting to second and riding it out with dead traction - if anything the traps will increase if I start in first instead. Also, check the video of us at the track - on the run where I didnt spin much I trapped higher than the run where I spun (2mph difference). And on the runs where I trapped my best I didnt spin at all.


    Izzy has to break in his motor, I've been busting his balls lately to run lol, once its broken In were going to get some good videos against one another
    Sure looked to me like spin in first and a quick shift into second due to it.

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    Erm is right. If he hooks that car in first it will beat that 132 pass. I have seen it on every single car I drag raced in the past 10 plus years

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I agree, but a certain crowd was very loud and vocal about the DCT advantage being worth 10mph when certain cars underperformed.
    Going so far as to claim DCT had lower drivetrain losses. That was one of the most epic failures I have seen...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    DCT does not add power, it actually has less, it is just that it spends more time accelerating. If the manual shifted as fast, in theory, it should have higher MPH through the traps.
    Noone said anything about DCT adding power. It simply shifts impossibly quick, has better gear ratios (even though top end the 6mt does have the advantage), and has no interruption in its acceleration. All that makes a big difference.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Erm is right. If he hooks that car in first it will beat that 132 pass. I have seen it on every single car I drag raced in the past 10 plus years

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    Noone said anything about DCT adding power. It simply shifts impossibly quick, has better gear ratios (even though top end the 6mt does have the advantage), and has no interruption in its acceleration. All that makes a big difference.
    There is an interruption in acceleration it is just very small. The point is the DCT makes everything up on shift speed.

    Some idiots said DCT had lower drivetrain losses and added power. It doesn't.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    There is an interruption in acceleration it is just very small. The point is the DCT makes everything up on shift speed.

    Some idiots said DCT had lower drivetrain losses and added power. It doesn't.

    Have you gone to the track with the new build?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Have you gone to the track with the new build?
    Seriously?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Seriously?
    Yes.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I agree, but a certain crowd was very loud and vocal about the DCT advantage being worth 10mph when certain cars underperformed.
    these are all BS bro.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    these are all BS bro.
    Huh?

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    For the record I trapped 127mph and the Zo6 me and izzy ran is the 2011 which has the ZR1 xpipe and makes about 50-60hp more....
    DCT is good for a 4-6mph trap difference maybe more if conditions are right and slick are heated up with the line lock in place ..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    For the record I trapped 127mph and the Zo6 me and izzy ran is the 2011 which has the ZR1 xpipe and makes about 50-60hp more....
    DCT is good for a 4-6mph trap difference maybe more if conditions are right and slick are heated up with the line lock in place ..
    correct, on 7.5 psi if i recall, same day AK did 127 as well? get your new car yet, i never got to ask at eurofest

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    i think you only got 126 i believe.
    F10 M5 : ??????
    E90 M3: 11.2 126.7 with a 1.8 60ft Street Tires, Stock Interior,DSC on

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How I hope Drew will grow a pair and run me. I can't wait to slap him around.

    Can't wait to get the car... almost there.

    If it's that quick with that tiny little blower it's going to be a beast with a real SC.
    Joe, I have a pair and will run with you.
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    I will quit being rude if you quit being stupid.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    correct, on 7.5 psi if i recall, same day AK did 127 as well? get your new car yet, i never got to ask at eurofest
    yeah, we will have dynos of both his and my setup this weekend

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    yeah, we will have dynos of both his and my setup this weekend
    who, m33 or img? where and what kinda dyno? please dont tell me ics...

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    zim and I, not sure I'm probably going to take the ride to him...whats bad about ics? I really dont care at all about the results of my dyno.....if I had to get I'd figure I'm around 580whp at least to be getting the results I'm getting both at the track and on the street

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    zim and I, not sure I'm probably going to take the ride to him...whats bad about ics? I really dont care at all about the results of my dyno.....if I had to get I'd figure I'm around 580whp at least to be getting the results I'm getting both at the track and on the street
    ICS does have a DynoJet, George is cool not a bad guy my boy use to take is evo there to get tuned.

    I am curious to see what kind of number's your car puts down.

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    I dont think anything is wrong with ICS, except their DJ dyno seems to inflate #'s. I know you care not for #'s, but realisticly, if you want to see the gain, you could use radical near me, or r/t where my stock runs were.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
    Joe, I have a pair and will run with you.
    I know, I hope we can set something up for the Winter. As I spoke with Jim about, a big BimmerBoost versus BenzBoost feature is a win-win for everyone.

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