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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    im sorry, but please educate me on the things Obama has done correctly to help, not further cripple this country. i seriously cant think of one thing.
    I'm not here to defend Obama merely to say the GOP needs to carry their water, which they are not doing. People see what they want to see, the level of disdain from people is like none I have ever seen with previous Presidents. That disdain is nothing more than hatred thinly disguised and people then overlook the facts. I say again vote for who you think will do the best job for the country. But be honest about what each party has not done for us
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    The real problem with the Federal elections is that the Dems and Reps have locked out any chance for a legitimate third party candidate to run on the national stage. Ron Paul is a true Libertarian, but changed parties in order to get elected to his House seat.

    Politicians are in the pockets of corporations via their donations. The media is owned by corporations. The Ron Pauls of the country will never get elected to the Presidency, as it would threaten the establishment and cost money and power for those in charge.

    The difference between Obama and Romney: Obama is in it to advance his socialist/elitist agenda. Romney is in it to support his CEO pals. They both want to get rich, as do most members of both parties. A clean sweep of both houses of Congress and the Oval Office might do some good. Very unlikely to happen.
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    Anyone else just get the feeling the system needs an overhaul?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Must be nice to be the Federal Reserve. Print your own form of currency and send it out as you see fit, while billions of other people work their entire lives to try and make more than $50,000 a year, which means less and less every year. Inflation and Cost of Living adjustments have made the penny obsolete, and make a nice illusion of having value. Click here to enlarge
    you do realize that we are at risk for deflation and not inflation right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    you do realize that we are at risk for deflation and not inflation right?
    How is that exactly? Living expenses continue to go up and a dollar buys you less and less.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How is that exactly? Living expenses continue to go up and a dollar buys you less and less.
    As unemployment increases, inflation rate decreases which is disinflation. This is the Phillips Curve. Hopefully we arent also in a liquidity trap with intrest rates at 0. This is what happened to Japan as well and they still haven't fully recovered from.

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    As you can see from the graphs above, inflation is contained and trending downward toward the 2% target.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
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    As you can see from the graphs above, inflation is contained and trending downward toward the 2% target.

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    I don't see how u say its thinly disguised, I make it very clear I do.t support his socialist agenda. I seriously could not think of one thing he has done to help the nation, so can't fathom why people would vote for him again, other than racial preference

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I don't see how u say its thinly disguised, I make it very clear I do.t support his socialist agenda. I seriously could not think of one thing he has done to help the nation, so can't fathom why people would vote for him again, other than racial preference
    Great summation my friend!!!!

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    I'm Ron Paul all the way, and by no means want Romney, but if it absolutely needs to be O or Rom, ill at least take a capable financially sound CEO that has a better chance for at least fiscal improvement over who is currently not doing things right.. lesser of 2 evils kinda thing

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I don't see how u say its thinly disguised, I make it very clear I do.t support his socialist agenda. I seriously could not think of one thing he has done to help the nation, so can't fathom why people would vote for him again, other than racial preference
    bingo

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    As unemployment increases, inflation rate decreases which is disinflation. This is the Phillips Curve. Hopefully we arent also in a liquidity trap with intrest rates at 0. This is what happened to Japan as well and they still haven't fully recovered from.
    right on the money...


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I'm Ron Paul all the way, and by no means want Romney, but if it absolutely needs to be O or Rom, ill at least take a capable financially sound CEO that has a better chance for at least fiscal improvement over who is currently not doing things right.. lesser of 2 evils kinda thing
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Awesome dyno sheets. Click here to enlarge
    thanks bro. its dyno sheets for my new drone lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    thanks bro. its dyno sheets for my new drone lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I'm Ron Paul all the way, and by no means want Romney, but if it absolutely needs to be O or Rom, ill at least take a capable financially sound CEO that has a better chance for at least fiscal improvement over who is currently not doing things right.. lesser of 2 evils kinda thing
    this. Hey if he wants to support his rich corporations, then so be it. Bush did the same thing, and even though it was not a great idea the economy boomed. Sure it popped but if we can bring it back up and and keep it up I think we will be back on the right track to a better time at least...

    I look at it this way. Let the rich people have their money. Cuse you know what? Rich people spend money on hobbies, like cars. They pay my job. You take the money away from them, and there goes my job.

    When I was doin Porsches the year before and after the crash, there was a very sharp drop off in work and clientele to arrive. We were scrambling to generate income (we only lasted so long before we started tapping into savings, and we cut back BIG time on expensese, didnt go racing, etc), and we were able to go through 2 more years of downturn. A lot of customers simply did not have the cash...their concrete plants or construction contracts just simply dried up, leaving them with no work, and their hobbies were the first to get cut. The people that did have money still, held onto it to ride the storm out and see what would happen...so that to us is just as bad as not having any money at all to spend.

    Even basic maintenance was out of the question for almost a year. People couldnt afford to do ANYTHING regardless of even doing oil changes. we went from making 1.2M a year to a fraction of that. Long Island was a bad place to live during that time lol...still a lot of vacant buildings around there. Very few high end shops made it through that time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    As unemployment increases, inflation rate decreases which is disinflation. This is the Phillips Curve. Hopefully we arent also in a liquidity trap with intrest rates at 0. This is what happened to Japan as well and they still haven't fully recovered from.
    I'm glad you paid attention to some random econ teacher but we aren't suffering from deflation.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I'm glad you paid attention to some random econ teacher but we aren't suffering from deflation.
    its basic marcoeconomics lol


    plus i didnt say we are suffering from it. look at the graphs, we arent suffering extreme inflation either.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    its basic marcoeconomics lol


    plus i didnt say we are suffering from it. look at the graphs, we arent suffering extreme inflation either.
    Whatever one wants to call extreme the dollar's purchasing power continues to decrease.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Whatever one wants to call extreme the dollar's purchasing power continues to decrease.
    thats because interest rates are really low and geopolitics also plays a role too.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    thats because interest rates are really low and geopolitics also plays a role too.
    It's a steady progression forever now. Look at what a dollar could buy you a hundred or even more years ago compared to now. It isn't changing anytime soon.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It's a steady progression forever now. Look at what a dollar could buy you a hundred or even more years ago compared to now. It isn't changing anytime soon.
    Tie the dollar back to real assets (i.e. gold reserves) and the value will go back up since the government could no longer print up as much as it wants. You'd also see an abrupt halt to the expansion of the military-industrial complex and cessation of the wars/conflicts that are ginned up to justify its existence.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
    Tie the dollar back to real assets (i.e. gold reserves) and the value will go back up since the government could no longer print up as much as it wants.
    There you go, that is how you stop it but it won't happen unfortunately.
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    lulz sticky the economist

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shahsk Click here to enlarge
    lulz sticky the economist
    Not claiming to be but the idea of money being tied to a precious commodity helps stabilize its value.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Not claiming to be but the idea of money being tied to a precious commodity helps stabilize its value.
    No country uses the gold standard anymore. There isn't enough precious commodity to back a large growing economy like ours. Lowering of purchasing power is due to the fed keeping intrest rates low which increases demand and spending like i said before. This makes our economy grow. The purchasing power won't have an effect if your income/wages increases more than the inflation rate.

    If your income/wages doesn't increase with the inflation rate, then your standard of living increases. this is what happened the decade before the recession.

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