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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    Very sweet. Why a standalone BTW? Do you plan to swap it into something?
    Im going to use it in my racecar, the goal is around 550hp.


    There are a couple of BMW Motorsport race engines, the first with "P" was the touringcar engine based on M50.
    P50B20 (320i touringcar)
    P52B20 (320i touringcar)
    P54B20 (320i touringcar)
    P54B32 (Z4 VLN/belcar)
    P60B40 (M3 GTR, not based on S62 its an complete new engine)
    P65B40 (480hp Z4 GT3 up to 2010 restricted on some tracks with different ECU to 450hp)
    P65B40 (485hp M3 GT2 with air inlet restrictors)
    P65B44 (515hp Z4 GT3 from 2011 restricted on some tracks with different ECU to 450hp)

    A page from the Z4 VLN spare part catalog
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    wow dude, where do you get the info? You are located in Europe i assume, right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    wow dude, where do you get the info? You are located in Europe i assume, right?
    I have been involved a little in an Swedish touringcar team and now im in a rallycross team and the car we built is two times Swedish champion with an 450hp S50. I also have an hobby rallycross car for myself with an 430hp S50.

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    Jealous! Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    I have been involved a little in an Swedish touringcar team...

    West Coast?
    Flash?

    Have been working a few times on STCC weekends myself...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by S62R Click here to enlarge
    West Coast?
    Flash?

    Have been working a few times on STCC weekends myself...
    It was an small independant team running an 1997 320i supertouring not in STCC but in some smaller races.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    It was an small independant team running an 1997 320i supertouring not in STCC but in some smaller races.
    Ah,ok.

    Was running Cup cars in the past a few times during STCC weekends..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    M3 GT2 has an all out P65B40 (485hp)
    Z4 GT3 has an moderatly tweaked P65B40(480hp)/P65B44(515hp)
    M3 GT4 has an stock S65B44 (420hp)

    The P65 is not an tweaked P60 its an tweaked S65 with integral drysump. It has nothing in common with the P60.

    Look at these pages from the FIA homolagtion for the 2010 Z4 GT3
    Attachment 16505

    The mountingflange for the drysump is in the lower left of the front och the block
    Attachment 16504
    Excellent, excellent post.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    Not yet but I'm building an S65 with Darton sleeves, high compression pistons, ported heads, Shrick cams and running Motec M800 ECU. But its not completed before a couple of months.
    More details on this? Sounds like you are going to have one of the baddest naturally aspirated S65's around.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    Im going to use it in my racecar, the goal is around 550hp.


    There are a couple of BMW Motorsport race engines, the first with "P" was the touringcar engine based on M50.
    P50B20 (320i touringcar)
    P52B20 (320i touringcar)
    P54B20 (320i touringcar)
    P54B32 (Z4 VLN/belcar)
    P60B40 (M3 GTR, not based on S62 its an complete new engine)
    P65B40 (480hp Z4 GT3 up to 2010 restricted on some tracks with different ECU to 450hp)
    P65B40 (485hp M3 GT2 with air inlet restrictors)
    P65B44 (515hp Z4 GT3 from 2011 restricted on some tracks with different ECU to 450hp)

    A page from the Z4 VLN spare part catalog
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    This is the type of posting I love to see, real quality. Damn, nicely done!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    More details on this? Sounds like you are going to have one of the baddest naturally aspirated S65's around.
    I bought an engine with a broken piston and damaged cylinder wall so I took the decision to bore them out and mounting sleeves. ROSS 14:1 pistons (I'm running E85 ethanol) my eninge builder wasn't pleased with some small portions of the head so he is going to work on them. He hasen't decided if we're going to use Shrick 292 cams or make new ones with his own cam profiles, the lifters are going to be converted to solid ones for more rpm capability. I'm going to try the stock headers to start with (they are using them on the Z4 GT3) and if it looks like they are an restriction I would build new ones.

    I have been working on this drysump oilpan in CAD
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    this is the car that the enigne is going to be used in
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    I bought an engine with a broken piston and damaged cylinder wall so I took the decision to bore them out and mounting sleeves. ROSS 14:1 pistons (I'm running E85 ethanol) my eninge builder wasn't pleased with some small portions of the head so he is going to work on them. He hasen't decided if we're going to use Shrick 292 cams or make new ones with his own cam profiles, the lifters are going to be converted to solid ones for more rpm capability. I'm going to try the stock headers to start with (they are using them on the Z4 GT3) and if it looks like they are an restriction I would build new ones.

    I have been working on this drysump oilpan in CAD
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    this is the car that the enigne is going to be used in
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    You are going to make your own dry sump setup rather than buy an already existing solution?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You are going to make your own dry sump setup rather than buy an already existing solution?
    They are all building to much height in the front of the engine so I can't lower it as much as I like to have room for enough lenght of the velocity stacks in the intake.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    They are all building to much height in the front of the engine so I can't lower it as much as I like to have room for enough lenght of the velocity stacks in the intake.
    I understand but why not already buy one of the dry sump setups out there?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I understand but why not already buy one of the dry sump setups out there?
    First because I can lower the engine 30mm more but also because I got a deal with a local machining shop and have the CNC time for free.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    I bought an engine with a broken piston and damaged cylinder wall so I took the decision to bore them out and mounting sleeves. ROSS 14:1 pistons (I'm running E85 ethanol) my eninge builder wasn't pleased with some small portions of the head so he is going to work on them. He hasen't decided if we're going to use Shrick 292 cams or make new ones with his own cam profiles, the lifters are going to be converted to solid ones for more rpm capability. I'm going to try the stock headers to start with (they are using them on the Z4 GT3) and if it looks like they are an restriction I would build new ones.

    I have been working on this drysump oilpan in CAD
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    this is the car that the enigne is going to be used in
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    Pure sickness. More pics of the red beast. From what I remember many were picking up decent power with schricks on sc'd e36's. My car with a AA base tune with an Rms stage 2 kit made 389whp and 312wtq with schrick cams. Most who did the same setup without cams made about 350whp at the same psi.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    First because I can lower the engine 30mm more but also because I got a deal with a local machining shop and have the CNC time for free.
    CNC time for free!!??
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I understand but why not already buy one of the dry sump setups out there?
    I have only found Daily Engineerings pan what more versions is avaliable? http://www.daileyengineering.com/e92_v8.htm

    BMW Motorsport P65 oilpan looks like this
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Pure sickness. More pics of the red beast. From what I remember many were picking up decent power with schricks on sc'd e36's. My car with a AA base tune with an Rms stage 2 kit made 389whp and 312wtq with schrick cams. Most who did the same setup without cams made about 350whp at the same psi.
    The car started as an daily driven 1995 M3 and I have built everything myself including making the widebody kit from scratch.

    Right now it has an NA 3,3l S50B30Euro with 380whp, Drenth 5-speed sequential gearbox mounted rearwards directly on the "210" rear axle with an carbondiff from Titan, 3-way Proflex shockabsorbers.
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    I also do a little iceracing in the winter
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    CNC time for free!!??
    I pay for the material for the oilpan and they do all the milling.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    I have only found Daily Engineerings pan what more versions is avaliable? http://www.daileyengineering.com/e92_v8.htm

    BMW Motorsport P65 oilpan looks like this
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    The car started as an daily driven 1995 M3 and I have built everything myself including making the widebody kit from scratch.

    Right now it has an NA 3,3l S50B30Euro with 380whp, Drenth 5-speed sequential gearbox mounted rearwards directly on the "210" rear axle with an carbondiff from Titan, 3-way Proflex shockabsorbers.
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    I also do a little iceracing in the winter
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    I pay for the material for the oilpan and they do all the milling.
    Didn't hear of that one, thanks. There is also Turner Motorsport that has a setup.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Didn't hear of that one, thanks. There is also Turner Motorsport that has a setup.
    Both Turner and VAC seems to be selling the one that Daily Engineerings makes.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    Both Turner and VAC seems to be selling the one that Daily Engineerings makes.
    Now this is news to me.

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    Now that's a real motorsport enthusiast! Thanks for sharing!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Now this is news to me.
    Daily Engineering
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    Turner Motorsport
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw-gtr Click here to enlarge
    Daily Engineering
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    Turner Motorsport
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    I had no idea, thank you.

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