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    What's a price range for a 2007 M5?

    Ok just feeling this out.

    If I find an 2007 M5 with 10k to 20k miles, manual, not necessarily fully loaded but just the basics. What would be a good asking price? What if it was DCT?

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    Well, there is no DCT so you mean SMG. The 6 speeds will be cheaper but you will likely want the SMG.

    They should be in the 40's now I would think but you are looking for a low mileage example.

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    does the SMG suck?
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    I don't think so, I like it.

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    whats the difference between that and the dct? is the smg a single clutch automated trans ans dct dual clutch with even/odd gears having devoted gearsets?
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    The SMG is a single clutch, yep.

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    hmm are there any known issues with this trans? or does it just shift slower?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    does the SMG suck?
    Yes. it does work on highways, but in city it's not a friendly transmission at all.
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    hmm are there any known issues with this trans? or does it just shift slower?
    The MT in E60 M5 is the same as E39 M5's, some spread rumors that the clutch isn't suitable for the torque S85 makes, but it's just rumor. That trans in E39 has been working flawlessly for 10 years.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    hmm are there any known issues with this trans? or does it just shift slower?
    It just shifts slower than a DCT.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It just shifts slower than a DCT.
    I think he meant the MT in M5.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    I think he meant the MT in M5.
    No, I think he was asking about the SMG vs. the DCT and if the main difference was that it shifts slower.

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    So what is an asking price for a 6MT 2007 M5 with anywhere between 15 and 30k miles?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    So what is an asking price for a 6MT 2007 M5 with anywhere between 15 and 30k miles?
    $50 or so.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    Yes. it does work on highways, but in city it's not a friendly transmission at all.
    I miss my E46 M3 with smg. The smg actually felt like a manual gearbox. I like feeling the shifts.

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    dont get the SMG it sucks

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    I'm really considering a 06-07 M5. I just can't really justify it as my only car in these north east winters. The torque also blows on these things!

    Question: What's up with the "shiftable Automatic". Dose that means it still acts like a manual sans a clutch or can you just sit back and relax like a normal auto tranny and choose to shift like a stick if you want?

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    It's really not a shiftable automatic. SMG II in the e46 M3 has the exact same gearbox (Getrag IIRC) as the manual version. I am not sure about the M5, but am assuming it's a similar story.

    It's not even similar to an automatic with "tiptronic" - you can dump the clutch, use launch control - and to tell you the truth, it's not very smooth unless you want it to be (meaning, you modulate the throttle at stoplights, in between shifts). I have found this not to be the case with DCT - you simply cannot fool the system, it's much different in this regard.

    I guess my point is, during the 3 years I owned an M3 with SMG, I used automatic mode once or twice for about a 5 minute time period while eating or something in the car. The automatic mode on this transmission is laughable at best, and should really only be used as intended, for sequential manual shifts. I would not buy this car hoping you can use it in automatic mode comforatably - you should shift it manually for best results.

    I would also say that the torque is more than adequate. The aggresive gearing on the car more than makes up for any "low torque"... This is the whole M adage - extremely flat torqeue curve (won't jump out mid-corner during a power spike), coupled with gearing that makes for about as much torque to the wheels as you would want on a track - with a VERY high RPM to make up for the aggressive gearing and to make lots of power.

    Hope this helps with your questions.

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    As an aside, the current M3 has more torque at the wheels than a Z06 up until 3rd gear where the Z06 takes over. It has plenty of torque - just not at the crank.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Potential_535 Click here to enlarge
    I'm really considering a 06-07 M5. I just can't really justify it as my only car in these north east winters. The torque also blows on these things!

    Question: What's up with the "shiftable Automatic". Dose that means it still acts like a manual sans a clutch or can you just sit back and relax like a normal auto tranny and choose to shift like a stick if you want?
    You can sit back and relax but it is honestly better to shift that trans manually.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    I guess my point is, during the 3 years I owned an M3 with SMG, I used automatic mode once or twice for about a 5 minute time period while eating or something in the car. The automatic mode on this transmission is laughable at best, and should really only be used as intended, for sequential manual shifts. I would not buy this car hoping you can use it in automatic mode comforatably - you should shift it manually for best results.
    The automatic mode is just terrible but that trans responded well to manual inputs.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    As an aside, the current M3 has more torque at the wheels than a Z06 up until 3rd gear where the Z06 takes over. It has plenty of torque - just not at the crank.
    Try explaining this to people, not even worth it.

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    It's called gearing, everyone knows what gearing is. no explanation is needed.

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    I agree completely... I thought they could have done a better job, but in all honesty - that car was raw in all of it's nature, so I can kind of understand why it was so bad. Maybe they thought "we'll force them to use manual mode by giving them shi7!" :-)

    I love that car and always will. From what I can see coming from BMW - I can say I have owned two of their best (I guess that's very subjective) powertrains... I love power, but not liking the fact that I won't have a NA engine in my M3... I think it's time to move to a Porsche 911 GT3 after this car, but who knows... As my g/f says, I change my mind every single day.

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