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    Which kit to get??

    Hi everyone,this is my first post so go easy...im based in the uk...thinking about supercharging my e90m3 but not sure which ESS kit to go for??is there
    A big difference between the 575,600,625 kits???
    i had a e46 m3 & supercharged it with a ESS cfr525
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    Why im looking at ESS again,thought about g-power but the cost at least 40% more money...
    Would like your thoughts on the ess range please
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    Here's a link to their site with their different kits
    http://www.esstuning.com/categories/...252dSeries/M3/

    there would be too much to write to tell you the differences. Pretty much the higher the number, the more power you would get.

    I'd also look into the AA and Gintani kits they have better proven results and reputation.
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    A buddy in Taiwan is selling his Gpower stage II kit.. you should hit him up...

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    If you are buying brand new definitely ESS over G-power.

    You should just get the best kit offering the most power for your fuel quality.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    A buddy in Taiwan is selling his Gpower stage II kit.. you should hit him up...

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    that would be ME! hit me up I'm selling this kit ASAP! willing to do a deal
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
    I'd also look into the AA and Gintani kits they have better proven results and reputation.
    Hmm, would argue AA has neither proven better results or better reputation in terms of SC'ing the e9xM's... certainly not after the mystery AA SC blown engine cover-up.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NatAsp-M3 Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, would argue AA has neither proven better results or better reputation in terms of SC'ing the e9xM's... certainly not after the mystery AA SC blown engine cover-up.
    AA has a really good reputation so i don't know where you get your info. I have the record right now for the fastest trapping e90 m3 in 1/4 miles with an AA kit.
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    it comes down to your preference, all kits are pretty good. They all come with their amount of haters. I like Gintani and AA, both pretty good in my books
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    Don't know why people say that these companies have bad reputation. both AA and ESS have good reputation... As far as choosing which of the ESS kit to go with, i agree with what Sticky said. Take the biggest one possible to the fuel quality. I think they have good fuel quality in UK, so the biggest would be this one http://www.esstuning.com/products/E9...er-System.html

    Good luck!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NatAsp-M3 Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, would argue AA has neither proven better results or better reputation in terms of SC'ing the e9xM's... certainly not after the mystery AA SC blown engine cover-up.
    You do raise a fair point about that blown motor.

    I will say that AA has a great reputation however and there are users here with very nice results.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You do raise a fair point about that blown motor.

    I will say that AA has a great reputation however and there are users here with very nice results.
    Agreed. I should re-state: "In my mind, the way they handled that blown motor situation brings into question their reputation."

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NatAsp-M3 Click here to enlarge
    Agreed. I should re-state: "In my mind, the way they handled that blown motor situation brings into question their reputation."
    I agree with your statement.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I agree with your statement.
    I'm going to be against you guys on this one, and not because we are representatives of Active Autowerke, but because there is more to the story than what was posted/told, and one of the biggest reasons Active was un-responsive was at a request of the OWNER, those guys do NOT hide things, they spend countless hours of R&D and Karl is truly a phenomenal tuner/engineer! Their quality control and product performance speaks for them!

    I would have Active on my top 3 list of F/I brands for the S62 hands down!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@lutzperformance Click here to enlarge
    I'm going to be against you guys on this one, and not because we are representatives of Active Autowerke, but because there is more to the story than what was posted/told, and one of the biggest reasons Active was un-responsive was at a request of the OWNER, those guys do NOT hide things, they spend countless hours of R&D and Karl is truly a phenomenal tuner/engineer! Their quality control and product performance speaks for them!

    I would have Active on my top 3 list of F/I brands for the S62 hands down!
    +1 i asked about the whole engine and Karl is the man really done to Earth and Smart. The best way i always say is go talk to each company and see who you feel comfortable with and you'll be happy . For me as soon as i spoke with Omar ,Jean and Karl I felt at home and they are always their for you whenever you need.
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    I like active, but Akash I have heard you have ran 60-130 runs but wont post your results. But there is a lot of hear say online. Active has a great reputation, not sure why anyone would say otherwise. And your 1/4 results are great.

    And whoever say ESS has a bad rep with this kit is pretty much just making things up. As they havent had one issue and have guys with good results. Now their behavior may be a different story
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    +1 i asked about the whole engine and Karl is the man really done to Earth and Smart. The best way i always say is go talk to each company and see who you feel comfortable with and you'll be happy . For me as soon as i spoke with Omar ,Jean and Karl I felt at home and they are always their for you whenever you need.

    Agreed!

    We are very close with those guys, and they support their dealers and ensure their customers are taken care of to the best of their ability, not to mention their kit is soooo clean, I think other than G-Power no kit comes close in quality! And I'm not overly fond of the Vortech blower :/ call me crazy but through the years, I've delt with many rebuilds! We have YET to see 1 latest rotrex (which is not on S65 kits) or HKS blower fail or leak!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I like active, but Akash I have heard you have ran 60-130 runs but wont post your results. But there is a lot of hear say online. Active has a great reputation, not sure why anyone would say otherwise. And your 1/4 results are great.

    And whoever say ESS has a bad rep with this kit is pretty much just making things up. As they havent had one issue and have guys with good results. Now their behavior may be a different story
    i have results but as you know all these ess guys love to nit pick everything and i don't care anymore. I think ess makes a cool kit and all but they weren't my choice due a few reasons. I also dont have a Pc( Mac guy) anymore so i need to invest in something cheap if i plan on ever showing those results. If you pm me your email within a few weeks i'll can send you a file of a few 60-130 runs so you can see how the kit performs.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@lutzperformance Click here to enlarge
    I'm going to be against you guys on this one, and not because we are representatives of Active Autowerke, but because there is more to the story than what was posted/told, and one of the biggest reasons Active was un-responsive was at a request of the OWNER, those guys do NOT hide things, they spend countless hours of R&D and Karl is truly a phenomenal tuner/engineer! Their quality control and product performance speaks for them! I would have Active on my top 3 list of F/I brands for the S62 hands down!
    I see what you are saying Andrew. Why didn't Active just publicly state what you stated right now to avoid all the speculation?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    And whoever say ESS has a bad rep with this kit is pretty much just making things up. As they havent had one issue and have guys with good results. Now their behavior may be a different story
    Not exactly, they have definitely had issues but keep them out of the public eye. The stroker build is just one example.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Not exactly, they have definitely had issues but keep them out of the public eye. The stroker build is just one example.
    but the stroker is a one off project. Im saying the normal kit, and small issues yes. But im sure thats every company
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    but the stroker is a one off project. Im saying the normal kit, and small issues yes. But im sure thats every company
    True, every company has issues. That is why I don't like how ESS pretends they don't have any when they have had their fair share.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    i have results but as you know all these ess guys love to nit pick everything and i don't care anymore. I think ess makes a cool kit and all but they weren't my choice due a few reasons. I also dont have a Pc( Mac guy) anymore so i need to invest in something cheap if i plan on ever showing those results. If you pm me your email within a few weeks i'll can send you a file of a few 60-130 runs so you can see how the kit performs.
    I hear you about the "ess guys". Terrible behavior imo, but that goes for many online. I dont know how to verify the runs, but would definitely be interested in knowing what times you have managed. I dont have a dog in this fight, im just into cars
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I hear you about the "ess guys". Terrible behavior imo, but that goes for many online. I dont know how to verify the runs, but would definitely be interested in knowing what times you have managed. I dont have a dog in this fight, im just into cars
    deff man ill let you know and send you some new dynos i have....How do you like the C63 compared to the M3?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    deff man ill let you know and send you some new dynos i have....How do you like the C63 compared to the M3?
    stock vs stock, I think the C63 is more fun as a daily driver. Exhaust note is mean and loud for a stock system, low end torque makes it fun and very easy to drift. On the track there no question the M3 is more agile,better balanced, lighter front end with more front end grip, but the steering feel in the C63 is actually much better and great communication between the front wheels and the steering wheel, the M3 steering feels to computer assisted and falsely weighted.


    and thanks would love to know. Just been following this stuff for so long I get interested. For your info with my stage 1 kit I ran 60-130 8.8 on half bald tires and no alignment on my KW V3's. I think the car was capable of lower to mid 8's.
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    This thread is a perfect example of why I like this site. Everyone just put out their own opinion, and that's exactly what the OP wanted... and nobody got banned, LOL. Any FI kit maker that never had a problem just hasn't made enough kits.

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