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    Drew steals BimmerBoost 1/4 mile list and reposts it on M3post without giving credit?

    What the hell Drew? Why would you do this: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9373855

    You essentially took the list I maintain and reposted it with some minor changes, what the hell? Then you claim that much of the list and the descriptions were done by Divexxtreme? That's the list I put together and maintain and you don't even give credit to who really deserves it?

    I am beyond pissed off, plus why would you support M3post with our content anyway?

    This is bull$#@! Drew, complete $#@! move to steal my content and act like someone else put it together:

    It should be noted that much of this list, descriptions and the idea itself originated from the hard work done by a friend of mine whom many of you may know from the BMW, Porsche and GTR community , "Divexxtreme," who is over on 6speed now. He has been a source of valuable information and is one of the most respected enthusiasts in the car world. He has spent countless hours creating a database for us, and he deserves most of the credit. I love this type of info and hope the the rest of you do as well.
    How can you just lie like that?

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    In case anyone needs proof as if it isn't obvious, look a these entries:

    11.77 @ 117.30 MPH 60' 1.64 (yandyr) 135i, Procede V4, ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, secondary cats cut, Meth, DCI, Race Gas, SLIP
    11.84 @ 116.97 MPH 60' 1.63 (Sitdown) E92 335, JB3 | DCI | FMIC | MS109 | K1/MT Drag Radials
    11.88 @ 118.70 MPH 60' 1.81 (DLSJ5) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt Ons, 96 octane,DR's
    11.90 @ 119.06 MPH 60' 1.67 (dzenno) E92 335 6MT, full boltons, catless, 60/40 meth, MS109, LSD, DR's, passenger and rear seats out, lightweight flywheel
    11.91 @ 130.14 MPH 60' 2.xx (Sticky) E92 M3 DCT Gintani SC Stage 2, DR's
    11.94 @ 118.86 MPH 60' 1.93 (prodigymb) E92 M3 Manual, ESS VT-2 600, Full Exhaust, DR's
    11.97 @ 123.00 MPH 60' 1.89 (TazaM3) E46 M3 AA Stage 3 SC, Race fuel, DR's, NOS
    11.98 @ 125.34 MPH 60' 1.91 (JMWEB) E46 M3 AA Stage 3 SC', Race fuel, DRs, NOS
    12.09 @ 115.32 MPH 60' 1.75 (LostMarine) E92 335 Auto, JB3, bolt-on's, 100 oct, DR's, SLIP
    12.10 @ 118.77 MPH 60' 1.85 (dzenno) 335i 6MT, Procede V4, pump + meth, MT drag radials, Helix FMIC
    12.19 @ 115.17 MPH 60' 1.95 (Sticky) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt ons, 93 octane, DR's
    12.19 @ 117.14 MPH 60' 1.85 (Divexxtreme) E46 M3 AA Stage 2 SC, 100 Octane, DRs, 3,230 lbs
    12.20 @ 121.8x MPH 60' 2.19 (Sammy Russo) E92 M3 DCT Gintani Stage 1 SC, 91 octane, DR's
    12.21 @ 116.58 MPH 60' 1.90 (Clemster) E39 M5, ESS SC 92mm pulley, 3.45 diff, Exhaust
    12.24 @ 113.51 MPH 60' 1.83 (DBFIU) E82 135i, JB3, Meth
    12.25 @ 114.10 MPH 60' 1.91 (Mike Wadsworth) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt-ons, ST's
    12.28 @ 118.04 MPH 60' 1.87 (Fanatic7) E46 M3 SMG VFE Stage 2 SC, 103 octane, DR's, 4000' DA
    12.28 @ 115.10 MPH 60' 1.82 (Sitdown) E92 335, JB3 | DCI | FMIC | MS109 | 1000DA, 1/4 tank of MS109/93, 19" Street Tires SLIP
    Not reposted from 6speed, reposted from BimerBoost as you can see where it says SLIP on the end which is something I added to the list to link to slips. Drew didn't even bother to edit that out just copy and pasted it. Drew, you are a complete b*tch for stealing our content and not even having the balls to give the proper credit. You can go get $#@!ed and when I see you I will let you know exactly what I think.

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    I have always hated how you repost everything everywhere essentially mitigating unique content but to support M3post? A site that censors us and you take BimmerBoost content to give to them? And blatantly lie and act like it came from 6speed? I lost any and all respect I had for you.

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    That entire list is stolen:

    11.19 @ 138.55 MPH 60' 2.05 (Evil Twin Rob) E46 M3 HPF Stage 2 TC, Race Gas, DR's INVALID Click Here for explanation
    The explanation being on BimmerBoost of course.

    And you all know those pricks will think he put this all together and pat him on the back for it. I can't believe it, he blatantly steals BimmerBoost content and acts like it came from someone else. And this is someone the community respects?

    Drew, it's hard enough starting a forum that those douchebags censor but then you undermine all the work people have put in here just like that? You obviously have no respect not only for my effort but for the property of others. Thanks for spending time helping out M3post with BimmerBoost's content.

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    What an $#@!... Get a life drew
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    That's cold, atleast give credit
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    The internet is serious business.

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    Still sucks though. Sure the guy spent a long time creating this list and only to get jacked and credited to someone else
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    Reading the first page of that 1/4 mile thread it looks as if he was the one who was creating/updating it(at least at the beginning) no?

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    damn, pretty $#@!ed up. somebodies really pissed...
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    Guys there was no malice intended here, I am not angry at anyone, posting a performance list on M3post was not meant to take a shot at anyone, but I have to say I'm really taken aback by this nonsense.

    When BB started I put the list together, and gave credit to whom the idea came from and much of the times listed as well and that person is Divexxtreme on 6speed. I also copied his descriptions, structure ,etc., that credit to Divexxtreme / 6speed has since been removed here, the original thread was created by me, that is now under Sticky's name, not mine, but the reality is, as someone pointed out here, I started it. So Joseph, did I get mad at you when you arbitrarily took the list I put together and put it under your screen name as if you took the time to source all these times and build it? Did you give me any credit and keep the REAL inventor's name when you edited the original thread? I copied most of those times from other sources, just as this forum still does, nothing wrong with that. The "slip" portion is not there as a link on M3post so that is misleading here and i agree would be out of line.

    To suggest that it's possible to give credit to everyone you sourced a timeslip or vbox pull from is hardly realistic when you are first starting such a thread, it should also be pointed out much of the BMW 1/4 mile list, was created by Kenny (Spin Spin Sugar), also I can't give BB credit on M3post it is not allowed. Sorry I'm not going to participate in taking sides, I happen to like that forum and most of the forums out there, we simply disagree on that, it does not mean that this type of info should not be shared everywhere. What exactly would I give BB credit for when the idea did not come from this forum, nor much of the times? Many of the times here I collected and put together myself, as an enthusiast I could care less who takes those times and post them elsewhere, it's all about sharing performance results, that was my sole intent, nothing more.
    Last edited by DLSJ5; 04-18-2011 at 12:19 PM.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    They don't allow giving credit to another site at M3post? That's almost as bad as mbworld.... Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What the hell Drew? Why would you do this: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9373855

    You essentially took the list I maintain and reposted it with some minor changes, what the hell? Then you claim that much of the list and the descriptions were done by Divexxtreme? That's the list I put together and maintain and you don't even give credit to who really deserves it?

    I am beyond pissed off, plus why would you support M3post with our content anyway?

    This is bull$#@! Drew, complete $#@! move to steal my content and act like someone else put it together:



    How can you just lie like that?
    Joseph these descriptions (below) that I used on M3post, word for word were taken from Divexxtreme on 6speed, I did not use the descriptions on this forum. However, you are still using my old descriptions that I wrote here on BB, I simply reworded them a bit at the time, but still gave Scott (Divexxtreme) credit for it, because HE invented it, not me or you, so if I had copied that, it was something I actually wrote anyway. So essentially I copied my own description idea about the cars, everything I initially put together on this forum, and yes I took some of the new times that have been posted since and shared them with enthusiasts on another forum.

    When comparing the below numbers, please keep in mind that variances in temperature, humidity, track conditions, and driver ability, can all have a significant impact on the data.

    For those that don't follow 1/4 mile drag racing; E.T. (Elapsed Time) is primarily a derivative of the launch, while Trap Speed (MPH achieved at the end of the run) is primarily a derivative of the amount of power being put to the ground on that specific track, that specific day. Trap Speed can be used tell you almost exactly how much hp your car is making at the wheels, assuming you use the correct calculations.



    As far as the content, meaning what boost, kit, tires etc. I'm pretty confident that started that, the link to a "SLIP" was your idea, I do not have that as an option.
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    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Exeenom Click here to enlarge
    They don't allow giving credit to another site at M3post? That's almost as bad as mbworld.... Click here to enlarge
    Mo, they don't allow anything on M3post that says "Bimmerboost," I'm not sure if you have been following the history of this but Sticky and M3post are like oil and water. Having said that I don't participate in forum vs forum politics, there are solid enthusiasts who offer a lot on every forum.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    In case anyone needs proof as if it isn't obvious, look a these entries:



    Not reposted from 6speed, reposted from BimerBoost as you can see where it says SLIP on the end which is something I added to the list to link to slips. Drew didn't even bother to edit that out just copy and pasted it. Drew, you are a complete b*tch for stealing our content and not even having the balls to give the proper credit. You can go get $#@!ed and when I see you I will let you know exactly what I think.
    As I pointed out there is no "slip" link on the M3post list, I think it's a great idea, but it's not active. Yes I copied times from this list, just as I did when I initially made this list on BB. As far as that list goes that you referenced, I added the one's in BOLD, about half of them, where is my credit for that? Do you see how preposterous this is?

    11.77 @ 117.30 MPH 60' 1.64 (yandyr) 135i, Procede V4, ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, secondary cats cut, Meth, DCI, Race Gas, SLIP
    11.84 @ 116.97 MPH 60' 1.63 (Sitdown) E92 335, JB3 | DCI | FMIC | MS109 | K1/MT Drag Radials
    11.88 @ 118.70 MPH 60' 1.81 (DLSJ5) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt Ons, 96 octane,DR's
    11.90 @ 119.06 MPH 60' 1.67 (dzenno) E92 335 6MT, full boltons, catless, 60/40 meth, MS109, LSD, DR's, passenger and rear seats out, lightweight flywheel
    11.91 @ 130.14 MPH 60' 2.xx (Sticky) E92 M3 DCT Gintani SC Stage 2, DR's
    11.94 @ 118.86 MPH 60' 1.93 (prodigymb) E92 M3 Manual, ESS VT-2 600, Full Exhaust, DR's
    11.97 @ 123.00 MPH 60' 1.89 (TazaM3) E46 M3 AA Stage 3 SC, Race fuel, DR's, NOS
    11.98 @ 125.34 MPH 60' 1.91 (JMWEB) E46 M3 AA Stage 3 SC', Race fuel, DRs, NOS

    12.09 @ 115.32 MPH 60' 1.75 (LostMarine) E92 335 Auto, JB3, bolt-on's, 100 oct, DR's, SLIP
    12.10 @ 118.77 MPH 60' 1.85 (dzenno) 335i 6MT, Procede V4, pump + meth, MT drag radials, Helix FMIC
    12.19 @ 115.17 MPH 60' 1.95 (Sticky) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt ons, 93 octane, DR's
    12.19 @ 117.14 MPH 60' 1.85 (Divexxtreme) E46 M3 AA Stage 2 SC, 100 Octane, DRs, 3,230 lbs
    12.20 @ 121.8x MPH 60' 2.19 (Sammy Russo) E92 M3 DCT Gintani Stage 1 SC, 91 octane, DR's

    12.21 @ 116.58 MPH 60' 1.90 (Clemster) E39 M5, ESS SC 92mm pulley, 3.45 diff, Exhaust
    12.24 @ 113.51 MPH 60' 1.83 (DBFIU) E82 135i, JB3, Meth
    12.25 @ 114.10 MPH 60' 1.91 (Mike Wadsworth) E92 M3 DCT, Bolt-ons, ST's
    12.28 @ 118.04 MPH 60' 1.87 (Fanatic7) E46 M3 SMG VFE Stage 2 SC, 103 octane, DR's, 4000' DA

    12.28 @ 115.10 MPH 60' 1.82 (Sitdown) E92 335, JB3 | DCI | FMIC | MS109 | 1000DA, 1/4 tank of MS109/93, 19" Street Tires SLIP
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Just to make it clear, I did take some of my original descriptions that I wrote here and added them to M3post along with what Scott (Divexxtreme) authored. The comments in bold that are still on BB, were written by me.

    GPS performance data:

    *NOTE: The maximum allowed downhill slope over the course of the run is 3.00%. Any run that exceeds 3.00% will not be posted on the list. Please include as much information about the car as possible, i.e. Mods and fuel that was used during the runs, as a reader this is one aspect I've always wanted more info on. Only GPS based, datalogger times from V-box equipment (Drift Box, Performance Box, or V-Box) will be accepted for this list. No extrapolated times from 1/4 mile time-slips. Also, all submitted data must be reviewed for accuracy and approved by a Subject Matter Expert (SME) before the time is posted.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    its pretty much half of drew's work and half of stickys along with other member's contributions, I remember when drew was actually putting it together like a little over a year ago and posting the results and times up here.

    pretty hectic
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    Drew is a stand up guy, honest, helps the car enthusiast community often, and puts time into making great videos. I know a huge part of that list is Diveextreme's work from 6speedonline and it was copied over here and to other forums as well. So to say Drew stole it is a little much, plus he did put the work into it in the begging. Maybe you guys need some resolution, or to take off the times that members only sent to BB.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Drew is a stand up guy, honest, helps the car enthusiast community often, and puts time into making great videos. I know a huge part of that list is Diveextreme's work from 6speedonline and it was copied over here and to other forums as well. So to say Drew stole it is a little much, plus he did put the work into it in the begging. Maybe you guys need some resolution, or to take off the times that members only sent to BB.
    Agree with this post. Nicely stated. I don't think Drew was anyway trying to be vindictive. He was just opening another avenue to help enthusiasts track their competition. Obviously Sticky despises that site so seeing a list that was created on his own site by himself, Drew, and Scott and then posted over there caused him to see red.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    its pretty much half of drew's work and half of stickys along with other member's contributions, I remember when drew was actually putting it together like a little over a year ago and posting the results and times up here.

    pretty hectic
    I would say putting the list on this forum initially was all my work, the info that I used I gathered mostly from Divexxtreme on 6speed, and from Kenny's 1/4 mile data base on M3forum. Since then many have added times here and many were sourced from other forums, or dragtimes. There is no exclusive BB content here that has been stolen or compromised, it's simply a list of times that I shared with others on M3post. What happened between M3post and Sticky is their business I take no sides in that drama, and as I stated I enjoy M3post, others don't, fair enough.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Drew is a stand up guy, honest, helps the car enthusiast community often, and puts time into making great videos. I know a huge part of that list is Diveextreme's work from 6speedonline and it was copied over here and to other forums as well. So to say Drew stole it is a little much, plus he did put the work into it in the begging. Maybe you guys need some resolution, or to take off the times that members only sent to BB.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 930chas Click here to enlarge
    Agree with this post. Nicely stated. I don't think Drew was anyway trying to be vindictive. He was just opening another avenue to help enthusiasts track their competition. Obviously Sticky despises that site so seeing a list that was created on his own site by himself, Drew, and Scott and then posted over there caused him to see red.
    Appreciate the support guys, as I said no malice was intended whatsoever toward Joseph and his forum, some of the comments here are preposterous / laughable, it's a list of times that are already out there in the universe for everyone to source.
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    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    I just dont see what the big deal is? I know sticky gets alot of his info for threads he creates here from many BMW sites and specially the bimmerpost ones without crediting them and that's cool as maybe I would have missed some of that info. Just don't flip out when it happens the other way around.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    Drew is a stand up guy, honest, helps the car enthusiast community often, and puts time into making great videos. I know a huge part of that list is Diveextreme's work from 6speedonline and it was copied over here and to other forums as well. So to say Drew stole it is a little much, plus he did put the work into it in the begging. Maybe you guys need some resolution, or to take off the times that members only sent to BB.
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    Wow, Sticky, calm the F down. You didn't create or think of that list in ANY way to begin with.

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