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    The Status on my Car...

    I now have my car back to stock, and no longer have the SC kit. Gintani to date has covered the motor repair and labor, which I very much appreciate. As far as the motor tear down, inspection and diagnosis, that is up to Gintani to let us know.

    Others may have a different opinion and I certainly could be wrong, but after doing more research, my feeling is the motor threw a rod because the car did have a Water/Meth failure not long before it went, it appears 9.5 psi is probably too much boost in general on a stock motor regardless of the fuel, but on 91 octane with no WM @ 9.5psi the motor would not last long and it most likely compromised a rod bearing. Even with the WM system repaired, the damage was probably already done.

    Here is the original thread on the subject: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...ing-Failure...

    On the stock setup with this used motor, running the Gintani X-pipe and Borla muffler, the car hit 355WHP, and 269WTQ. I also matched my previous best 60-130 time of 10.7s, so this used motor appears to be healthy and right were it should be. Click here to enlarge

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    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    those are stock M3 numbers?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    those are stock M3 numbers?
    Stock ECU, the car does have a Gitnani Xpipe and Borla Muffler, good for at least 15-20whp over stock.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    Stock ECU, the car does have a Gitnani Xpipe and Borla Muffler, good for at least 15-20whp over stock.
    whats the best 1/4 in this form you have done?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    Others may have a different opinion and I certainly could be wrong, but after doing more research, my feeling is the motor threw a rod because the car did have a Water/Meth failure not long before it went, it appears 9.5 psi is probably too much boost in general on a stock motor regardless of the fuel, but on 91 octane with no WM @ 9.5psi the motor would not last long and it most likely compromised a rod bearing. Even with the WM system repaired, the damage was probably already done.
    Glad to see you say this Drew and I agree completely with your conclusion.

    I don't know if 9.5 psi with meth is too much, as I think you were the only one running that much but the meth failure throws a large variable in affecting that conclusion.

    It is also probably good to mention that after the meth failure you heard a ticking noise which, hate to make this correlation, the motor was basically a ticking time bomb.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    those are stock M3 numbers?
    Stock they put out between 330-360, with ~345 being about what you normally see. My car was 349 whp stock.

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    Very cool to see that the motor can produce the same numbers after the rebuild.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    Very cool to see that the motor can produce the same numbers after the rebuild.
    This motor was not rebuilt, it was a used motor.

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    aww man, no more sick mexico runs with the stage 2 kit Click here to enlarge. As long as you're happy with the car, that is all that matters.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Glad to see you say this Drew and I agree completely with your conclusion.

    I don't know if 9.5 psi with meth is too much, as I think you were the only one running that much but the meth failure throws a large variable in affecting that conclusion.

    It is also probably good to mention that after the meth failure you heard a ticking noise which, hate to make this correlation, the motor was basically a ticking time bomb.
    Great points, and I agree, but Ricky, Dean, Ryan, all ran around the same amount of boost I did.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    whats the best 1/4 in this form you have done?
    12.0 @115 at a moderate track, 11.88 @ 118 at a fast track, but those runs were with a pulley and tune as well.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
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    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    Great points, and I agree, but Ricky, Dean, Ryan, all ran around the same amount of boost I did.
    I don't know Dean or Ryan but Ricky has been running that boost, that is right. His motor is fine as are the others I believe? So I think that is stronger evidence for the meth failure being the issue more than the amount of boost as they are running fine with the meth.

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    congrats on getting the car back

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    congrats on getting the car back
    Thanks Sizzle.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
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    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Also glad to hear it's back up and running.
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    What happens with the SC kit now? Will you boost it again? Get rid of the car? How do you proceed from here?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    whats the best 1/4 in this form you have done?
    Don't know if this helps but I trapped 113 on a 6MT M3 with filter, pulley, rear exhaust

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What happens with the SC kit now? Will you boost it again? Get rid of the car? How do you proceed from here?
    this^^^
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    So what happens if you have a meth failure on an M3..is there anything that can kill the tune or boost like the 335s do? Or is it pretty much up to you to catch it if something happens in the middle of the run?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    So what happens if you have a meth failure on an M3..is there anything that can kill the tune or boost like the 335s do? Or is it pretty much up to you to catch it if something happens in the middle of the run?
    Boost is set physically so a problem but you can have a warning for flow. I'm not sure what safeties Drew was running but from what I understand it took him a little bit of time to realize the meth wasn't flowing.

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    that's a healthy engine , good to see you are back Drew Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What happens with the SC kit now? Will you boost it again? Get rid of the car? How do you proceed from here?
    Gintani has the kit now. My options are open, I will keep the car, I like it too much and right now all of my buddies are getting GTR's, lol, so I'll skip that idea for now.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    Gintani has the kit now.
    So are you going to sell it or did they take it back or what?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    So what happens if you have a meth failure on an M3..is there anything that can kill the tune or boost like the 335s do? Or is it pretty much up to you to catch it if something happens in the middle of the run?
    Excellent questions, I had no safety features. The tank I was running at the time was large, and you could not see how full it was because it was not clear. I was out doing Vbox pulls one morning, I did quite a few pulls and on the last one the motor shut down and acted a little odd. I went to Gintani the next day and we discovered the Meth nozzles were clogged. Joseph is correct the "ticking" noise I heard started after that.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    So are you going to sell it or did they take it back or what?
    They took it back, I am not sure what they are going to do with it, maybe they have someone who's already bought it or are looking for a buyer.
    08 E92 M3 - DCT
    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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