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I just found this hilarious thread....lol. Can't wait to hear/see results. All this talk about peak dyno whp numbers doesn't take into account power delivery, vehicle weight, gear ratios, and...

Wait... E9Xs DCT run in the mid 12s 60-130? I thought they'd be faster than that, I was under the impression that DCT M3s were close to C63s stock for stock....guess I was wrong. *disappointed*

Thats plain pathetic....and with the top down to rub it in....lol. Had the M3 put the top up, it might have made all the difference and the S5 would have lost to a 10 year old convertible.

S85 has such heart....the way it propels a heavy sedan/coupe under its own breath at high speeds to beat "faster" sports cars is truly amazing. You'd swear that engine had a soul.

Dudes...not trying to stir drama. Its an honest question. I guess I wasn't privy to the other conversation on the topic. Reason I ask is because my buying decision will be based on these facts,...

So what is it.... Did the tranny croak or not? And how much power was the car making at the time?

Just heard from a friend who shall remain nameless, that some DCT cars that were Supercharged (Gintani), not that it should matter what brand but i'm just rehashing what was told to me, have needed...

Any word on 35is, and 1///M tunes?

SIIIIIICK!!!!

You're right, Car and Driver had a 4mph difference. But when looking at a 60-130 and taking launch and the first 60mph out of the equation I think it would be much closer than you think. I remember...

Oooooh...

458 Italia...BAAM! They run neck and neck. And...its only half a liter bigger than the S65 to boot. ;-)

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I heard there won't be many options available....

From a roll? Z06 would be pretty close....thats an 8 and NA. ;-)

If DCT M3s run neck in neck with C63 stock for stock....how does this guy hope to compete?

Must be in Europe....they do so many cooler swaps than we do, lol

Any news on Engine and Transmission specs?

Omg.... That's the spitting image of my old girl. :-(. I miss Nogaro Blue. Is this car for sale too? I'm not buying just want to see mod list... Gotta link?

I'm with most. B5S4 FTW!! I like the RS6, but like it has been mentioned after a strong tune, the tranny is begging for help. Get the S4 with already upgraded Twins.

I hear ya on the camps dilemma. As for the gearing topic; did you read the rest of my post? I plead my case as to why the shorter gears would hurt these cars, like you said. Lol

Looking for daily driver. Will consider either E90 or E92. Would like Nav/BlueTooth/HI-FI/DCT. I won't go into any crazy details but let me know if you are interested in getting out of your car.
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Thanks Drew,

I'm not on either camp's side...just think its great to see the progress of the platform. This reminds me of the old GIAC vs APR brawls on Audiworld and WAYOT, lol.

I hear what...

Sticky....dude, are you 60? LMAO ;-) A CL600 to me seems too much like an old fart's car. Its basically a S class trying really hard to be a coupe...they are kinda cool but not my thing at least. ...

Thats what I thought too....Mike's setup is very different now from when he ran the 1/4 without spray. Wasnt Biglare's car running different gearing and some ridiculous 20inch boat anchors? That...

Jon, I don't think there is a ton of data from the ESS guys. I know that's unfortunate in itself, but for what it's worth I think IMG ran mid upper 7s with a similar kit, warmer weather, and a 6sp....

That's almost all in, Lmao. They've become pretty inexpensive cars to buy. Ive seen a few built cars sell for the low 20k range.