I'm sorry how do 335's dominate straight line performance when the M3 holds the ET record (on stock internals and less power/torque than the single turbo setups) and has beaten the N54 to every milestone? So, reality just doesn't matter?

So you count your dollars while I spank you.

I'll annihilate you if you want? On video for the forum to see? Just don't cry about it.

I assume most n54 guys would atleast admit a P31 C63 would beat a fbo n54? Here is a catless m3 taking a C63 P31 and leading the way up until really high speeds where c63 claws back. Maybe someone can explain this as well as they did the initial video.

The only thing "wrong" with the G-Power stuff is the cost.... The Evolve is a very, very close 2nd to that.

And this is going to honestly be an on going battle. The N54 has clearly shown itself to be a much more capable power platform on a stock motor (S65s hitting high 500s, the N54 sitting just over 700 WHP with possibly more room) and for a significantly lower investment, but for all we know that can be changed with the Gintani TT kit. It's completely worthless though to compare built motor S65s (like Stickys) against high HP N54s (the Vargas Stage 3 or Vishnu ST) until people start building the motor. YES the N54 was built for boost, but until someone builds an N54, we're making an apples v oranges comparison.


Honestly, I just want a Vargas Stage 3 and a Gintani YSI (both 6MTs) to line up & have them run against each other.

Omg this same idiotic point again. Another person trying to tell others what they need to realize when he doesn't realize 570 whp M3's are putting down the same trap speeds as the Vishnu single turbo in the mid 650's. How do you explain that?

Someone focusing on engine torque figures again, wonderful. Still the common poster does not get it.

I'll never make the same torque as some of these big turbo cars but I'll annihilate them. The M3 doesn't need more peak torque it's where it makes its torque that matters. God damn...