BMW Z2 is coming with turbo 1.6 liter 4 cylinder power

2500?? that would still be amazing.....just need a quick tune...and there we have it.

BMW Miata? Not my cup of tea

I like this idea a lot, the only thing remotely close to BMW pedigree. Looks good in my book.

Like others have said, throw a JB3 in it with exhaust and you can have a track ready little roadster.

They need to do this, but with a straight 6.

Even Miatas are about 2500lbs. 2200 lbs would require some serious aluminum/cf.

This would be very fun on a track with a tuned 1.6.

Originally Posted by Doug007

Even Miatas are about 2500lbs. 2200 lbs would require some serious aluminum/cf.

This would be very fun on a track with a tuned 1.6.

They are saying they will use various exotic materials but when push comes to shove and the bean counters get in the way it won't happen.

I dont care what they do, make it RWD.

Agree about the weight -- 2200 lbs would be a miracle. And make the M2 an I6 please.

Originally Posted by ersin

Agree about the weight -- 2200 lbs would be a miracle. And make the M2 an I6 please.

Make a it a V8 if we are dreaming.

I wouldn't mind seeing a tweaked 4 cylinder turbo in it, something modified to be worthy of M branding though.

I disagree. I think it would be hard to maintain the "balance" (for lack of a better word) of the car with a V8 in it. Think of the old Shelby Cobra. Lots of power but unusable. Plus, if there's one thing BMW does right, it's arguably an inline 6. I really prefer the S65 in my M3 now, but the S54 in the E46 M3 was a thing of beauty. I can't help but think of how the E46 M3 might have been with a loss of a few hundred pounds. If they could have that kind of engine in a 2200 lb (ahem) M2 then, well, I think it would be the start of another really great M car; something that will be remembered as one of the best.

Now put the S65 V8 in the Z4M and we're talking epic too. But that would make too much sense for BMW M nowadays. I pray they'll find a way to make these NA motors conform to the new emissions standards. Alas, with all the emphasis on forced induction, I fear we won't see anymore high-revving, NA engines from BMW for a while.

Originally Posted by ersin

I disagree. I think it would be hard to maintain the "balance" (for lack of a better word) of the car with a V8 in it

Why? S65 weighs 30 pounds more than the N54 and ~32 pounds less than the S54.

Originally Posted by ersin

Now put the S65 V8 in the Z4M and we're talking epic too.

AMEN, I can't believe this hasn't been done yet.

I would give my nut for a Shelby Cobra.

Originally Posted by BigM62

I would give my nut for a Shelby Cobra.

Original eh? Plenty of replicas available.

Originally Posted by Sticky

Original eh? Plenty of replicas available.

I drove my Uncles 1968 Shelby GT500 in high school.he let me have it for Fri and Sat nights. Yeepy yai eh MFs!!!

Originally Posted by Sticky

Why? S65 weighs 30 pounds more than the N54 and ~32 pounds less than the S54.

I meant power-wise. That's why I put the "balance" in quotes. I'm talking about the overall balance of the car. Can a car that weighs so little put down all that power? I would look at a Z2 as a really fun car to drive on the road. Tracking, of course, would be different. But on the streets, I'm wondering if so much power would really be that much fun or if it would leave your hands full, like a real race car would.

Then again, on this forum, I ought to be that surprised that you didn't say turbo'ed V10.

Originally Posted by BigM62

I drove my Uncles 1968 Shelby GT500 in high school.he let me have it for Fri and Sat nights. Yeepy yai eh MFs!!!

That's certainly one niche where you'd be hard pressed to beat a Cobra: Fri and Sat night cruising.

Originally Posted by ersin

Can a car that weighs so little put down all that power? I would look at a Z2 as a really fun car to drive on the road. Tracking, of course, would be different. But on the streets, I'm wondering if so much power would really be that much fun or if it would leave your hands full, like a real race car would.

Well, that is what is nice about the low torque motor with very linear power. I would argue with the S65 it would be easier to control than with an N54.

Originally Posted by ersin

Then again, on this forum, I ought to be that surprised that you didn't say turbo'ed V10.

Twin turbo stroked V10

Originally Posted by Sticky

Well, that is what is nice about the low torque motor with very linear power. I would argue with the S65 it would be easier to control than with an N54.



Twin turbo stroked V10

Now you got me thinking. That smooth, high-revvin' 400 hp V8 in a 2200 lb two seater would be sweet. Just keep it normally aspirated and put a really nice exhaust system on it. I bet the sounds you'd hear with the top down with be worth gold.

But I wouldn't discount putting the ole S54 with it's raspy snarl in it either. I think either engine would make for one really memorable BMW. Too bad it aint gonna happen.

Maybe a quad-turbo, stroked, nitrous-injected W-16 with active aerodynamics on the car would hit the spot. No?