ESS supercharged E90 M3 vs. Kenne Bell Gt500

Originally Posted by E46rage

Reality mustang gt500 are $#@! in my point of view I've never liked mustangs at ALL !


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No worries, everyone has their own view on them.

I live in Columbus, Ohio for the record. Both are awesome rides with different purposes. In a straightline drag race, the KB Shelby will demoralize a Blown M3 until the first turn

Originally Posted by boost4u

I live in Columbus, Ohio for the record. Both are awesome rides with different purposes. In a straightline drag race, the KB Shelby will demoralize a Blown M3 until the first turn

It depends what blown BMW, but, for the most part this is very true.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

until proven otherwise, it is 100% fact

It is proven otherwise, sub 600 whp blown M3's are trapping 130-131. 700+ whp KB Cobras are trapping ~134. KB cobras range from low 600's to 8xx (9xx as well?).

You should be able to figure this out. If stock internal SC M3's on pump gas are a good run, what will built motor SC m3's be? Here is a hint, they won't be slower.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

its very easy, show me a s/c S65 m beating a KB Cobra heres a hint, i cant find any evidence of that ever taking place

Good point, very odd that is the case with how long the S65 has been out and all that development time. Considering we have so many SC S65's to choose from it really is odd we don't have more videos of runs.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

^

I think you are capable of thinking for yourself. If everything for you is decided by videos, I'm not sure what to say.

LOL lostmarine seems to assume alot. So how about those runs that were supposed to happen ?

Originally Posted by LostMarine

thats the attitude!!

im not assuming if its a fact, prove me wrong. ricer math doesnt cut it

How is ricer math saying a KB cobra and a SC DCT M3 is a good run? Considering there are lower power KB's and higher power KB's the one in this video here would be a good run for an M3 that was trapping 130 or 131 on the old intake design that was robbing power. That is hardly ricer math.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

thats the attitude!!

im not assuming if its a fact, prove me wrong. ricer math doesnt cut it

60-130MPH, 3 Supercharged E9X M3's are faster than a KB 750whp GT500, I'd say that's more than enough to say it would be close, 1/4 ET's are mostly do to the launch, cleary the GT500 will demoralize a FI E9x in that department, lol, but that soon will change.

Gpower Built Motor 6.36s
ESS 5.5psi/Nitrous 7.05s
Gintani Stg 2+ 7.19s
GT500 KB -750WHP 7.75s

Originally Posted by LostMarine

saying a good run is one thing. ASSUMING something, unproven, based on #'s from previous and different platforms, is what, i believe, that the rest of the intrewebz autoracing community, calls ricer math

Check the post above yours to see that ricer math isn't at work here, real numbers are.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

those specific #'s, speak well for your cause, but what are the specs on that ONE KB cobra, do we know him, what his car actually has, weight fuel etc. and is ONE car representative for the entire community, or is that a GREAT run for that individual car, or a HORRIBLE run for that individual car..

My cause? Lmao, no cause Bro, just using performance information that is the standard most enthusiasts use if you want to compare cars on paper. I don't know the owner personally but a friend of mine does, he was there the day the car put down 750whp on the dyno, the car has a "mammoth" KB charger, cams as well.

I don't know for a fact who's faster but Vbox #'s are a good start, and from what I've seen pretty accurate, to give you an idea of how much HP those heavy GT500's need to move, here's a vid of a 620-640whp KB Gt500 against a bolt on 500whp C6 Z06.