• APR built and balanced 2.0 TSI bottom end build - Pictures of the block, crank, pistons, and rods

                    
      		   
      Published on 06-14-2012 12:10 AM
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      APR does absolutely great work on the VW platforms and this is no different. Eventually in builds taken to a high level the rods and pistons become a weak point in the 2.0 motors. APR suggests upgrading the rods when going beyond the Stage 3 pump gas level. The pistons here use the same compression ratio as the stock Golf R which APR feels is best and are coated in heat resistant material. APR also does a balance shaft delete which frees up some rotational mass.

      Material is removed from the stock crankshaft to lighten and balance it. For those looking to take their 2.0 TSI motor to the next level APR has built and balanced internals covered. Photos below.



















      This article was originally published in forum thread: APR built and balanced 2.0 TSI bottom end build - Pictures of the block, crank, pistons, and rods started by Sticky View original post
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      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 06-14-2012, 04:33 AM
        Damn, I do not know how I didnt see this. Amazing to see shots for the public on the TSI motor. This is a first. Big things are coming their way. APR stage 4 on TSI should yield some massive power.
      1. dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks's Avatar
        dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks - 06-14-2012, 08:51 AM
        How well does the AWD tranny handle this power? What's the most that's been pushed on this motor so far? Is it all through a FWD or is there AWD setups?
      1. jspirate's Avatar
        jspirate - 06-14-2012, 10:15 AM
        Geeeeeesh! Those APR freaks sure do get to have lotso fun!
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU - 06-14-2012, 11:09 AM
        APR does good $#@!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 06-14-2012, 02:23 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Damn, I do not know how I didnt see this. Amazing to see shots for the public on the TSI motor. This is a first. Big things are coming their way. APR stage 4 on TSI should yield some massive power.
        How much power?
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 06-14-2012, 08:13 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How much power?
        well the stage 3+ is 400 whp or so. I'm guessing the stage 4 will be in upwards of 450whp+ easy. AFAIK stage 4 set ups are totally custom tunes but that's with the FSI. There hasn't been any stage 4 TSI that I know of in the public. I know they're obviously testing the $#@! out of it.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 06-14-2012, 08:14 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        well the stage 3+ is 400 whp or so. I'm guessing the stage 4 will be in upwards of 450whp+ easy. AFAIK stage 4 set ups are totally custom tunes but that's with the FSI. There hasn't been any stage 4 TSI that I know of in the public. I know they're obviously testing the $#@! out of it.
        I would want a completely custom tune over anything canned
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU - 06-14-2012, 08:28 PM
        I love the TSI and cant wait to see high hp coming from it.
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 06-15-2012, 01:40 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I would want a completely custom tune over anything canned
        APR has one of the best canned tunes though, without a doubt. I know for a fact though that it will most likely be a custom tune for a stage 4 setup. However you want your car to be they will do it.
      1. pattrick02's Avatar
        pattrick02 - 08-16-2012, 09:33 AM
        is this tsi motor for sure, and not fsi?
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 08-16-2012, 11:21 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
        is this tsi motor for sure, and not fsi?
        Yes, it is TSI. The pistons and rods are from the TSI motor that are pictured up top.
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        pattrick02 - 08-16-2012, 01:02 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Yes, it is TSI. The pistons and rods are from the TSI motor that are pictured up top.
        good stuff. i'm surprised i haven't seen this on other forums, or on their facebook yet.
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 08-16-2012, 06:00 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
        good stuff. i'm surprised i haven't seen this on other forums, or on their facebook yet.
        To be honest, I wanted to show you a picture to verify and I guess I'm not even sure what it's from exactly.

        Here is the comparison of OEM FSI VS Mahle FSI pistons VS OEM TSI VS Mahle TSI piston. It' doesn't look like any of the OEM ones. Only resembles the Mahle FSI piston.

        Attachment 19865
      1. pattrick02's Avatar
        pattrick02 - 08-17-2012, 01:02 AM
        that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 08-17-2012, 04:15 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
        that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?
        I got them from golfmk6.com under the 2.0 engine mods. thread is the Myth busted injectors found something like that. I'll try n link it here.
      1. pattrick02's Avatar
        pattrick02 - 08-17-2012, 09:41 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        I got them from golfmk6.com under the 2.0 engine mods. thread is the Myth busted injectors found something like that. I'll try n link it here.
        i think i saw the same thing on vortex: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...mystery-solved.

        but i don't see the picture of the pistons..probably someone else who posted it..
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 08-17-2012, 11:42 AM
        yes, that thread but on golf mk6 pretty much.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 08-19-2012, 06:04 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
        that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?
        What I posted is coming from the Max Golf R build.
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 - 08-19-2012, 06:48 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        What I posted is coming from the Max Golf R build.
        Perfect, now I know what motor this is lol. FSI not TSI Click here to enlarge
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        Sticky - 08-19-2012, 10:04 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Perfect, now I know what motor this is lol. FSI not TSI Click here to enlarge
        Actually, sorry, I don't think this is from the Max R build but a separate build.
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