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Today, 07:55 PMSticky created an article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsWow. That is exactly what came out of my mouth when I saw this supercharger kit at Bimmerfest. In all honesty, it was my main motivation for attending the event once I heard it would be there. Some people may be reading this and wondering what the big deal is as superchargers already exist for the M3. That is true, superchargers do exist, but they are all centrifugal style blowers. This is the world's first positive displacement supercharger for the S65 V8. Why is that a big deal? Because it's a completely different type of blower with completely different power delivery. This is the solution for those who complain about the M3's torque or for those who do not like the response down low of a centrifgual blower which needs rpm to make boost. This style of supercharger is always making boost, from anywhere in the rev range. That is what makes incorporating it on the S66 V8 difficult with its independent throttle bodies as positive displacement blowers usually are set to pull air through a throttle body not blow into it. The centrifugal blowers send air into a manifold. If a positive displacement were to use a similar setup it would be blowing air in while the throttle bodies attempted to close as it is always making boost. See the problem? The solution Harrop Engineering came up with was a manifold that fits in between the throttle bodies with a bypass valve fit that relieves pressure as needed and makes sure boost is not made as throttles are closing. Pretty trick setup eh? You can see the design in the photos and also how tight the packaging is. I do not even want to know how many hours were put in trying to get this all to fit. The blower employed is a TVS1740 unit from Eaton. This is a roots blower and likely will be set to 5.5 psi or so initially. Boost from this blower is different from a centrifugal and will be harder on the stock rods since it is at full boost right away. Expect horsepower in the low 500's to the wheels. Oh and see that little black box to the left of the manifold off a metal area at the inlet? There will be electronic boost control which is likely the first of its kind on a positive displacement setup although I am not able to confirm this. Different maps with different boost levels for different fuel? A possibility, yes. This is a big deal and an engineering feat for the S65. My complete and utter respect and that of this network to the guys at Harrop. There is still work to be done here. It is not quite ready although pricing is initially set at $12,990. There is still a lot of tuning to be done but this will be coming eventually. Pictures below, much respect Harrop and it was a pleasure meeting you guys at Bimmerfest. You were incredibly nice and answered all my (MANY) questions. Thank you:126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 07:11 PMSticky created an article Porsche 911 Turbo S (997.2) versus McLaren MP4-12C head to head at the 1/4 mile drag strip in Porsche Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsGreat video here of three runs at the PBIR (Palm Beach International Raceway) between a McLaren MP4-12C and a Porsche 911 Turbo S PDK. Oddly enough, the McLaren seems to rip the 911 Turbo out of the hole on the runs despite not having all wheel drive. It's fast, very fast in the first run turning a 10.6@134 to the 911's 11.0@125. On the second run the McLaren gives the 911 Turbo the hit and seems to just barely run it down but the times are similar with a 10.6@133 for the McLaren and 11.0@126 for the 911 Turbo. The 911 Turbo S is a terror on the drag strip having shown a 10.7@127 in stock form and even a 10.6@129. That was in seemingly better weather though and the Florida PBIR strip isn't the fastest when temps start to heat up. This MP4-12C likely has the new software update which bumps output by 25 horsepower. On R-Compound rubber we have seen a 10.3 1/4 mile out of the car completely stock. It's simply quicker and faster than the 911 Turbo S, video below.19 replies | 89 view(s)
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Today, 09:35 PMLostMarine commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsEven without knowing the setup, this is a prime example of needing meth.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:34 PMbenzy89 commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsZR1 has significantly more supportive cooling than the ZL1/CTS-V. Standard Air/Water setup with pumps & front mounted heat exchanger. I'm surprised that they're reusing the OEM airbox and not doing a intake from the front bumper (ESS & VF Engineering) or revised dual intake setup (like Active, Gintani & G-Power).126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:28 PMLostMarine commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newsi know they tried it, i know they put it on your car, but we have yet to see anyone else running them, or a dyno..many years later.. so.... key word "tangible"354 replies | 17591 view(s)
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Today, 09:26 PMLostMarine commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newsah, i read it as you were not able to confirm it used, not if it was the first of its kind on a PD126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:15 PMDFM commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsAh I see it now. Genius manifold design.126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 09:13 PMkeikdasneak commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsThis is going to be amazing.126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 09:12 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsLooks like a water/air heat exchanger to me?126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:10 PMDFM commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsMaybe I missed it but what are they doing for cooling? or do we not know yet...126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 09:05 PModdjob2021 commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsReally? They made the one of the first chra upgrades for the N54. You were part of that scene which is why I am surprised you don't remember all that.354 replies | 17591 view(s)
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Today, 09:04 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsYes, this was discussed.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:03 PMLostMarine commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newsis it conformed the e- valve/bov?126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:03 PMLostMarine commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newsi really dont see more than 6 psi being used effectively. unless they have the E-valve to bleed boost, and even then i expect the tq to be a killer down low. man oh man if this works out though..126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:02 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsIt's the way they are bleeding off boost that makes this work.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:00 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsYes, they are.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:00 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsVery true although this is not pushing the blower super hard. But you raise a good point.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 09:00 PMDFM commented on article Stock C6 Z06 versus stock F10 M5 highway roll on races - M5 wins? WTF? in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsI understand now. I first read that as "you forgot this possibility" Cheers55 replies | 619 view(s) -
Today, 08:58 PMSticky commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsWith a built motor it would be out of its efficiency range. As this is a roots style blower its best at low boost. With a built motor I don't think more than 6xx will be possible if that.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 08:58 PMLostMarine commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newseh, they stole my idea: http://www.germanboost.com/showthread.php?1657-Why-is-it-always-centrifugals-Why-not-more-twin-screws&p=247438#post247438126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 08:57 PMSered commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsPositive displacement blowers also have more difficulty with heatsoak (the main reason the CTS-V and ZL1 suffer from it so badly -- though the ZR1 doesn't seem to have too much trouble). It will be interesting to see how the S65 performs.126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 08:47 PMDFM commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsI was scratching my head quite a bit until I noticed the blower is inverted. Awesome setup, hat off to Harrop Engineering.126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 08:41 PMinlineS54B32 commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsNow I get it... To be honest, I didn't fully understand why this type of blower wasn't used. After reading the explanation, this makes a lot of sense why it wasn't done. I am guessing the car there is in a driveable state? Are these guys on the forum? Cheers.126 replies | 133 view(s) -
Today, 08:35 PMbenzy89 commented on article Harrop Engineering doing the "impossible" - Introducing the world's first positive displacement E92/E90/E92 S65 V8 supercharger in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsManifold pics are the best ones.... Does anybody know what would be the max boost/power this blower could turn out on the S65?? Including built motor potential.126 replies | 133 view(s)
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Today, 08:34 PMDFM commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsDon't forget, it was a dry shot before the MAF with no tuning done.354 replies | 17591 view(s) -
Today, 08:32 PMLostMarine commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification Newsno, i meant, have they ever produced anything more tangible than those 3, intake (piping) exhaust (piping) and throw some nawz on dat bitch? (SS lines)354 replies | 17591 view(s)
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Today, 08:10 PMTZ04XJR commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsLol.. Damage control for them must be a full time job.354 replies | 17591 view(s)
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Today, 08:04 PModdjob2021 commented on article Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup in BMW Blog, Performance, Tuning, Motorsport, and Modification NewsNo need to get into what they plan for that platform on this thread. When they are ready they will post a press release on the intake. The mod list will be more substantial than, 'an intake and an exhaust' I assure you.354 replies | 17591 view(s)






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